Sally D & Others....
Thu, 12 Jan 2006, 12:17 amWalter Plinge32 posts in thread
Sally D & Others....
Thu, 12 Jan 2006, 12:17 amSTOP FILLING UP THIS FORUM WITH CRAP! Why don't you and your aspiring waapa friends get your own mailing list and email each other this rubbish?? This website and it's forums are meant to be about theatre around australia not all your dribble it's just wasting space! By all means live in your fantasy world, but do it somewhere else! Nobody cares and we don't want want to see it filling up our screens! So go somewhere else - l feel sorry for your lecturers this year, i hope you settle down once you arrive!
Re: Gee, guys....woops!
Tue, 17 Jan 2006, 12:49 amSALLY D wrote:
>
> So in response to the previous two posts, I believe that by
> asking us "annoying MT students" to leave this forum, and
> fundamentally arguing that this is a "public forum" with no
> room for "exclusivity" or "closed discourse", you exercise
> contradictory principles. By asking us to find another avenue
> of discussion, you are practising the very social mores you
> deplore... As this is a microcosm of a larger public network,
> it is unjust and unrealistic to expect a forum without
> diversity; both in the demonstration of opinions and the
> acceptance of minority sects. The very nature of a "forum" is
> the assurance of the right to freedom of speech, free flow of
> discussion and immunity from prejudice. I do not expect you
> to alter your social values, and I do not expect to be asked
> to alter mine.... I say, allow this forum to roll along.
> Accept there will be differing opinions and congratulate
> those with the will to speak up. If you don't like something,
> by all means post your alternative, but refrain from
> right-wing ambition and never, ever tell someone they should
> find another forum for their discussion.... Every guest to
> this site owns just as much validity as the next.
I really didn't understand your first paragraph, but I'm all in favour of everyone baring their chest....
If you think there are contradictory principles in my last post and the one that came before it, you're probably right, because I don't claim to agree with everything the previous author said. This isn't an 'us' vs 'them' situation; I've already said I believe there are many sides to an argument.
I don't think I've been contradictory in my OWN statements...? (...No. Just read back through this thread...I still agree with myself).
I HAVEN'T been advocating that you leave this forum, in fact I've been encouraging you to trade banter with me and others here. I've been asking you to include the wider public in your conversation, much for the same reasons you offer - 'free flow of discussion'.
And I DO argue that this is a public forum. By definition, there can't be exclusivity...your conversations are open to everyone, and people are joining in as soon as you post, either as readers or further contributors. So it seems silly to be attempting to be an exclusive club (as Janty was petitioning in one post).
I also DO advocate diversity, demonstration of differing opinions, immunity from prejudice, and acceptance of minority groups.
So we don't really differ much, do we? Why do I get the impression you think you're being attacked?
I did take issue with the amount of elite, 'in' joke, wanky kind of conversations that offered no humour or relevance to the community reading these forums. My objections were on the grounds that it tended to be disrespectful to those users who (we agree) have equal validity in being here. But hey, it was just my opinion, and I welcome any opposing argument.
Cheers,
Craig
>
> So in response to the previous two posts, I believe that by
> asking us "annoying MT students" to leave this forum, and
> fundamentally arguing that this is a "public forum" with no
> room for "exclusivity" or "closed discourse", you exercise
> contradictory principles. By asking us to find another avenue
> of discussion, you are practising the very social mores you
> deplore... As this is a microcosm of a larger public network,
> it is unjust and unrealistic to expect a forum without
> diversity; both in the demonstration of opinions and the
> acceptance of minority sects. The very nature of a "forum" is
> the assurance of the right to freedom of speech, free flow of
> discussion and immunity from prejudice. I do not expect you
> to alter your social values, and I do not expect to be asked
> to alter mine.... I say, allow this forum to roll along.
> Accept there will be differing opinions and congratulate
> those with the will to speak up. If you don't like something,
> by all means post your alternative, but refrain from
> right-wing ambition and never, ever tell someone they should
> find another forum for their discussion.... Every guest to
> this site owns just as much validity as the next.
I really didn't understand your first paragraph, but I'm all in favour of everyone baring their chest....
If you think there are contradictory principles in my last post and the one that came before it, you're probably right, because I don't claim to agree with everything the previous author said. This isn't an 'us' vs 'them' situation; I've already said I believe there are many sides to an argument.
I don't think I've been contradictory in my OWN statements...? (...No. Just read back through this thread...I still agree with myself).
I HAVEN'T been advocating that you leave this forum, in fact I've been encouraging you to trade banter with me and others here. I've been asking you to include the wider public in your conversation, much for the same reasons you offer - 'free flow of discussion'.
And I DO argue that this is a public forum. By definition, there can't be exclusivity...your conversations are open to everyone, and people are joining in as soon as you post, either as readers or further contributors. So it seems silly to be attempting to be an exclusive club (as Janty was petitioning in one post).
I also DO advocate diversity, demonstration of differing opinions, immunity from prejudice, and acceptance of minority groups.
So we don't really differ much, do we? Why do I get the impression you think you're being attacked?
I did take issue with the amount of elite, 'in' joke, wanky kind of conversations that offered no humour or relevance to the community reading these forums. My objections were on the grounds that it tended to be disrespectful to those users who (we agree) have equal validity in being here. But hey, it was just my opinion, and I welcome any opposing argument.
Cheers,
Craig
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