Rock Eisteddfod judges corrupt?
Wed, 19 Sept 2001, 11:12 amGilly17 posts in thread
Rock Eisteddfod judges corrupt?
Wed, 19 Sept 2001, 11:12 amThis is aimed to any of us that were involved with or viewed the Rock Eisteddfod Grand Final. The results stand as followed:
1. John Septimus Roe
2. Como
3. Perth Modern
4. Willetton
5. Mandurah Combined
To many of us involved with the schools production found these results rather suprising.
For the record, all my comments are not biased and I will not name my school for various reasons.
The general thought backstage was that Padbury (Harry Potter) and Yanchep (just a wish away from home) deserved places 1 and 2 respectively. Ocean Reef (Cobacabana) was of outstanding quality and also deserved to be in the top 5. Mandurah was thought to place higher, but 5th is a reasonable place. Willetton was alright, they deserved 4th and probably could have been beaten by Mandurah and other schools. Perth Modern was good, they always have been and always will be good so they deserved 3rd. Como: don't get me wrong, I loved their performance but the sets and costumes didn't really deserve 2nd. Watching the production during rehearsals you get to the finale and think "Finally, some colour in the performance!". And John Septimus Roe, simple idea and did a bloody good job of it, but most of us didn't think they deserved 1st place.
The performers choice award: who decides that? If the performers do, the only people they must of asked is the people from Como because I and most other schools would not say Como.
Hopefully there is a judge on this page that can answer this posting and shead some light on the situation. Comments?
How is it all judged and how did you get these results?
Cheers,
Alan Gill
1. John Septimus Roe
2. Como
3. Perth Modern
4. Willetton
5. Mandurah Combined
To many of us involved with the schools production found these results rather suprising.
For the record, all my comments are not biased and I will not name my school for various reasons.
The general thought backstage was that Padbury (Harry Potter) and Yanchep (just a wish away from home) deserved places 1 and 2 respectively. Ocean Reef (Cobacabana) was of outstanding quality and also deserved to be in the top 5. Mandurah was thought to place higher, but 5th is a reasonable place. Willetton was alright, they deserved 4th and probably could have been beaten by Mandurah and other schools. Perth Modern was good, they always have been and always will be good so they deserved 3rd. Como: don't get me wrong, I loved their performance but the sets and costumes didn't really deserve 2nd. Watching the production during rehearsals you get to the finale and think "Finally, some colour in the performance!". And John Septimus Roe, simple idea and did a bloody good job of it, but most of us didn't think they deserved 1st place.
The performers choice award: who decides that? If the performers do, the only people they must of asked is the people from Como because I and most other schools would not say Como.
Hopefully there is a judge on this page that can answer this posting and shead some light on the situation. Comments?
How is it all judged and how did you get these results?
Cheers,
Alan Gill
RE: Rock Eisteddfod judges corrupt?
Wed, 19 Sept 2001, 02:13 pmWalter Plinge
The performers choice award is chosen by the schools. The liason teachers (i believe) give a vote of who they think it should be. I believe, it should have been Dongra, or one of those little schools in the "small schools division".
I would have chosen, Perth Mod, Mandurah, Ocean Reef, Belridge, Padbury, JSR in any order... Rock ed. is always like that though, you never know who is going to win (or place for that matter.) I'm from Perth Mod, and we were worried that we might not place at all! Despite what people say, you can never be too sure.
Last year was wierd as well (when Como won)... it was a huge shock! For the past two years, everyone has expected Mandurah to win at finals; and for the last two years, they haven't.
I don't even remember Yancheps - what was it? I have to say, I really did think that Perth Mod's backstage deserved Prop/set design and the stage crew award (which we did win)! They rocked 110% (boyakasha)... both on and off stage!
What I think was great about JSR was they didn't loose story/characterisation, etc. with their dancing and it was REALLY easy to understand! (not so "symbolic" and "representational" like a lot of the other schools). You have 8 minutes to convey your story/message/theme/concept it has to be clear enough for the audience to understand easily...
I don't think the judging is "corrupt" I just think it's hard to know what is going to look good on the burswood stage in comparision to entertainment centre. (because the judges are so much further away at finals) and it really does come down to personal choice a lot of the time.( Also, a lot of the judges were new this year)
I would have chosen, Perth Mod, Mandurah, Ocean Reef, Belridge, Padbury, JSR in any order... Rock ed. is always like that though, you never know who is going to win (or place for that matter.) I'm from Perth Mod, and we were worried that we might not place at all! Despite what people say, you can never be too sure.
Last year was wierd as well (when Como won)... it was a huge shock! For the past two years, everyone has expected Mandurah to win at finals; and for the last two years, they haven't.
I don't even remember Yancheps - what was it? I have to say, I really did think that Perth Mod's backstage deserved Prop/set design and the stage crew award (which we did win)! They rocked 110% (boyakasha)... both on and off stage!
What I think was great about JSR was they didn't loose story/characterisation, etc. with their dancing and it was REALLY easy to understand! (not so "symbolic" and "representational" like a lot of the other schools). You have 8 minutes to convey your story/message/theme/concept it has to be clear enough for the audience to understand easily...
I don't think the judging is "corrupt" I just think it's hard to know what is going to look good on the burswood stage in comparision to entertainment centre. (because the judges are so much further away at finals) and it really does come down to personal choice a lot of the time.( Also, a lot of the judges were new this year)
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