Um hi guys! wow what an amazing forum! I am, like so amazed how much you guys all know about like, acting and stuff! I heard off my friend dulcie at the clinic that waapa was doing auditions for people soon.... my mum has always said i'm such a character, and I was thinking, i reckon i could be a performer in a big hollywood musical! i cant really sing that good - only in the shower using my shampoo as the microphone!! haha I heard they teach you singing and stuff at the academy, so yeh. I reckon it wud be wicked to be in a place where everyone is so talented and amazing singers. I wanted to get advice on my audition.... I started writing my audition monologue and me and my friend sharon, who did ballet until she was, like, 14, is helping mewith a creative dance...how long should it be? and is it cool if i wear my leotard? what do you people reckon?>
Um hi guys! wow what an amazing forum! I am, like so amazed how much you guys all know about like, acting and stuff! I heard off my friend dulcie at the clinic that waapa was doing auditions for people soon.... my mum has always said i'm such a character, and I was thinking, i reckon i could be a performer in a big hollywood musical! i cant really sing that good - only in the shower using my shampoo as the microphone!! haha I heard they teach you singing and stuff at the academy, so yeh. I reckon it wud be wicked to be in a place where everyone is so talented and amazing singers. I wanted to get advice on my audition.... I started writing my audition monologue and me and my friend sharon, who did ballet until she was, like, 14, is helping mewith a creative dance...how long should it be? and is it cool if i wear my leotard? what do you people reckon?>
I dont do musical theatre, Im a musician at WAAPA in my third year, but I do know that you cant just write your own monologue. If you go to the acutal waapa website there are a list of female and male monologues. You have to select from there, the only thing I dont know of is how many you pick, Im sure it would say, I havent looked. Also I know you have to pick one up-beat song and one ballad. Dont pick anything that you think everyone else will be doing (eg DONT do anything from Chicago). They get about 3000 applicants and only take 9 girls and 9 boys, so you imagine how annoyed the panel get after hearing 'Roxy' ect for the 1000th time. I'm pretty sure if you get a call back, then they ask for the dance, but I think that the first audition is based on singing and the monos and its taken pretty seriously, so you have to impress them with your voice....
Hope thats some help. Its probably best if you talk to and actual MT though. Or call WAAPA urself.
I did the certificate of Music Theatre a couple of years ago, and just to warn you, if you 'can't sing that good' you don't have an iceberg's chance in hell of getting in.
Most people who have gotten into waapa, even the short courses, have already done years of training. My advice is to get some singing lessons and audition for some of the amateur shows around the place (the auditions section of this site is really helpful).
If you are still hell bent on auditioning (and if you haven't got your forms in yet they'll already be late) then you need to perform 2 contrasting music theatre songs (ie one ballad and one up-tempo) and one monologue from the list that they give you. Make sure you read the play the monologue's from, and also find out about the shows your songs are from so you can characterize properly.
hi sally. where do you live? i was thinking maybe you could come round to my house and i can help you out with your audition;) we couild get to know each other.
Ummm, I don't know how half of you could think that Sally d's post is sincere when it is quite obviously a lame satire of the younger posters on this board, probably written by a WAAPA student. Are you all retarded!!! Seriously.
can u guys smell that????
eeww
oh no...oh no sorry....
it's just the SHIT YOU GUYS WRITE ON HERE!!
GET A LIFE AND USE THE TIME TO PRACTICE OR GET BETTER AT SOMETHING YOU OBVIOUSLY ARENT GOOD AT! HUH i feel better wah!
Yeh sally has written some pretty weird posts which obviously reflects her character and who takes who seriously. I would love to know who she is!! I am in WAAPA cert and just love the ppl in the group plus the BA MT ppl.
Man, what a great time and what a great place, for all I know sally d might be my best freind lol. Never can tell on this thing
hey guys!
just wondering if anyone knows when the monologues are for the acting audtions are available?
also if anyone knows what monolgues they had available last year the would be great!
thanks xx
great! thanks for that, ill be sure to hope on the website and for those of you who care...
i have the biggest crush on last years graduate renato!! ohh such a spunk.. haha lame i know!
aaanyway.. it had to be said
night all!
I'm in cert, and once you see Sophie dance, you can't HELP but have a crush on her. She's amazing.
Renato's on a "Don't Drink and Drive" ad, incidentally...
1. Can you cert ppl tell me, do you guys want to do the BA, are you garanteed a spot or what happens.
Cos you guys have done the intro course I would think you have a much better chance than others at getting into the BA.
2. Are there many ppl in this years BA that did the cert and like how many do you reckon they would take from interstate
I am not at WAAPA and correct me if Im wrong but the cert ppl have the same chance as any other newbie.
I didnt think that cos you done the MT cert you automatically get in, it says that on the website but what do the cert people think.
Are there any in your class that want to do the BA or you think have got what it takes to get in??
I'm in cert at the moment, and like someone already said, we have the same chance as any other auditioner. Since there are people in the BA this year who have done cert and who haven't I'd say the chances are about the same.
However, I am loving the cert course; it's the best thing I've ever done and it's taught me a LOT. So, from my point of view, I'll be going into auditions better equipped than I have been previously. Everyone in cert is very talented, and I'm sure we all want to get into BA. I know I do.
But it's deinfitely not an automatic thing.
those students in the certificate course are not guaranteed a place in the BA course by any means. in fact the powers that be (so i have been informed) would rather let the cert graduates out in the world for a year or two and see what they do with their training and then POSSIBLY take then for the BA. Now i'm not saying this is always the case! there are exceptions of course but from what i know thats all i can say.
but he that dares not grasp the thorn,
should never crave the rose.
Anne Bronte "The Narrow Way"
I am busting my guts in the cert this year so I can get into the BA. Some cert students from previous years have gone to London's west end after the course and done very well. I understand there are no garantees but the cert is only an introductory I would not feel I have accomplished/learnt enough myself to enter the world of MT, its a basic course. I know whats involved in the BA course and after watching their performances, they are outstanding.
Its hard enough when you come from interstate and are told you have had bad training.(not in those words, maybe not trained their way) but I want to continue learning more and more. They said they saw my potential in the audition and I have had the most fantastic training this year, my singing teacher is just the best and I love her to bits.
It is a amazing course the BA, my goal is to get in
Hi guys im Thomas Northey, and how I have the acting talent i have I dont know where it comes from in my family (background) many people eg, my family and friends say how my talent in acting will get me soo far if I take myself there, and ever since i saw a movie for the first time, i said to myself, thats me Ishould be doing that. I was sitting there one day and Isaid to myself, why am I sitting here, this isnt where I want or need to be, I need to be out there with my passion of Acting and for the thing I love doing and what I do best. If there was one thing whether it was the hardest or easiest thing I ever do I want to become an actor, and there is no one else but one person that can make me be that person I wish to be, that one person is myself. All I want to do is perform all day and no matter how long or hard it takes to do that, I will do it.
Hi guys it's me agen, does anybody know when the auditions are for taking part in Acting for WAPPA , i really need to know so as soon as u know or find out plz let me know.
Hi my name is Thomas Northey, u hav prbably reead my replies before, i was asking which is the quickest way of getting out in the Acting world and if anyody knows anyone in the industry of WAPPA or acting industry plzz let me know, because my dream is to see that camera directed right at me filming great movies the world wants to see, because acting is all i wish to do 24/7 every day learning more and more new things and whether it takes a long long time I will be the person i want to be, Thomas Northey Hollywoods dream actor or , or whatever but if the opportunity of a lifetime comes out, I am right here waiting for you to get back to me, because I wait and wait and wait until I hear a reply accepting that opportunity,all i want to do is be happy, and I will not be happy until I am the person I know I can be, thats the actor of his dreams.
http://www.waapa.ecu.edu.au/courses/courses_view.php?rec_id=0000000002
Chck this out, down the bottom of the page is the male monologues, they are the same for both MT and Acting but you have to do 2 monologues for acting
Or just go to the waapa website and click on 'courses and admissions. In the left colmn is the courses, click acting, then advanced diploma and its at bottom of that page
That really pisses me off when I heard the comment that the CERT kids need to go away for a year or 2 to see how they go before they get into the BA.
What happens to those who are from interstate and uproot everything to make Perth their home , but can only stay a year cos the powers that be reckon they should go practice somewhere else after the CERT.
I think it is bullshit that these people think that kids have the money to go do every friggin course and pay for tuition and go overseas for experience. My mate did the cert course a few years ago. Have loads of experience in pro-am theatre, had been in musicals for years before hand but wanted the BA so badly but they said you gotta go and experience the world. How much more world do they want. They play God
The idea of studying and doing a course is to learn, to prepare yourself for the big auditions and to improve your abilities. The introductory is the foundation and the BA is a building. Dont you think the teachers can see if a kid has got the passion and ability to go on further.
You dont see a doctor doing a medical course for a year then going out to practice for a year or 2 for experience then come back and do the rest of his training.
This is why WAAPA is getting a bad reputation and kids are looking to the eastern states
I am confused here. WAAPA Musical Theatre course comprises singing, acting and dance.
WHY is the importance put on singing alone. I thought it should be equal in the audition. BUT the dance is only held when you get a call back. Surely they can see potential in all areas and judge on the overall performance and abilities at the first audition.
If its based on singing WHY isnt it a singing course like the CON.
I have seen some BA perfomances and they were very average and some were down right pathetic in movement.
Der what are they thinking. All other musical theatre course audition all three disciplines. Maybe thats why only a few make the big time, they concentrate so much on singing that no one has the whole package
Hey Kids,
Just becuase you go to WAAPA doesn't mean you'll get a job. Nothing is secure.
A lot of "I'm going to be a star" students end up falling back on a job at maccas or getting their DipEd and becomming very bitter, bad teachers with a ruined "dream".
I've been studying the arts (film,lit,theatre etc) at uni here and overseas for six years and it is not easy. Only those who work their asses off so much that they have no social life during uni end up as some of the most interesting and smart I know...you'll find some on this site. Other you can find elsewhere.
Think before you do,
A.
Those who want to get into WAAPA you need to think long and hard about what you want to achieve. Especially those from the eastern states.
WAAPA ia a long way from home and Perth is definately not Melbourne or Sydney. No shops are open on Sunday's and they all shut at 6pm on weekdays none of this staying open late. The nightlife is crap. OMG so so dead man.
Its quiet and isolated, flights home are not cheap, and finding accommodation is bullshit, theres not enough decent close accommodation. Dont even think about staying in student accom. its the pits and a hell hole. Dont tell me the MT schools around Sydney dont get their students into musicals cos they do. Why go all the way over there and waste your money when we have perfectly good MT schools here
What makes WAAPA great, its isolated so no agents can steal you and thats it.
Think about giving up 3 years of your social life cos you only party with the same WAAPA people at their places cos theres no where else to go. WAAPA is like NIDA, they rip you to shreads, chew you up and spit you out, no encouragement, push push push. You always see students crying in the corridors, Aust Idol's Kyle and Mark Holden are pussycats compared to this. They want their $55 audition fees from everyone to make money. Dont get me started. Plus they only take about 2 people from Sydney out of hundreds, majority of students are from WA cos they have a week of auditions.
You paint a very hard picture of our fair city Mr 'Plinge'. Have you ever lived here? I think you would find that it is not so bad as you say. If it was then, why do o many continue to live, work, play and succeed. Take Heath Ledge - Perth through and through - Was 'discovered' in Perth, so don't tell me about agents that can't 'steal' you as you say. Many an actor has been stolen from Perth. Many an actor has left Perth also to be found.
I'd be interested as to where you garner your facts from because while they hold fragments of truth, the are gross exaggerations of reality. WAAPA is world renowned for a reason. You obviously are unaware or have been rejected once before. The do accept a very short list, but then so do most of the world's best theatre/musical schools, and there are lots of hopefuls.
That all said and done, getting into places like WAAPA or NIDA, RADA, etc are not the be-all. There are many paths into professional performance.
Dixi
Jeff Watkins Perth based Actor/Performer Fight/Sword Choreographer
> Those who want to get into WAAPA you
> need to think long and hard about what
> you want to achieve
True of any course of study.
> WAAPA ia a long way from home and Perth
> is definitely not Melbourne or Sydney.
Not sure what that's even supposed to mean.
> No shops are open on Sundays
Not true.
> and they all shut at 6pm on weekdays
Not true.
The nightlife is crap
Depends on what you're after.
> Its quiet and isolated
Precisely why it's such a good place to study acting - no pressure from the industry like you get at NIDA, where they're scrutinising your every move from day one and not allowing you any room to stretch your wings a little.
> flights home are not cheap
Depends who you fly with.
> and finding accommodation is bullshit
> there's not enough decent close accommodation.
So walk. Ride a pushbike. Catch a bus. Or share a house like every other student.
> Dont even think about staying in student
> accom. its the pits and a hell hole.
I'll take your word on that one.
> Dont tell me the MT schools around Sydney
> dont get their students into musicals cos
> they do. Why go all the way over there and
> waste your money when we have perfectly
> good MT schools here
So go to one of them.
> What makes WAAPA great, its isolated so
> no agents can steal you and that's it.
I thought you said that Perth's isolation was a bad thing.
> Think about giving up 3 years of your
> social life cos you only party with
> the same WAAPA people at their places
> cos theres no where else to go.
Oh the humanity! I pity the poor suffering victims who only get to party with twenty-something actors! Because god knows they're such kiljoys!
**chortle**
> WAAPA is like NIDA, they rip you to
> shreads, chew you up and spit you out,
> no encouragement, push push push.
Crap. Have you been there?
> You always see students crying in the
> corridors
Names and dates, please. Because I for one have never seen this, nor heard of it happening. That's not to say that it doesn't, merely to point out that it's *very* infrequent.
And in any case... even if this does happen occasionally, guess what... it's a high pressure environment training young people for a high pressure industry - it's not a freaking kindergarten.
> Aust Idol's Kyle and Mark Holden are
> pussycats compared to this.
Oh shut up. Who do you think you're trying to impress?
> They want their $55 audition fees from
> everyone to make money.
You think they should volunteer the weeks of staff time, airfares to Sydney and Melbourne, and accomodation in those cities, etc., that are required in order to run those auditions?
(And I'll bet that the combined audition fees don't even come close to covering all of that anyway.)
> Dont get me started.
You did that all on your own.
DM.
How's life treating you these days? Thanks for the co-supportive comments. You hit it on the nail and with far more guts than I would have done ;-) Hope to see more from you.
Dixi
Jeff Watkins Perth based Actor/Performer Fight/Sword Choreographer
Humm, very clever but what you see is not what I saw at WAAPA. I have been there for goodness sake. From my BA MT course we had those crying in corridors many times. Do you visit corridors regularly to know who is there and who is not, Obviously you do if you know this doesnt happen.
When I was there 3 years ago there were no shops open after 6pm weekdays. Shops not open on Sunday. Nightlife is boring compared to Sydney.
Plus I am talking to those who live in Sydney and Melb and want to venture over. Im was not the only Sydney sider doing MT who hated the nighlife in Perth, and there has to be a break in study for sanity, hello where is there. Northbridge has a few so does Freo but no comparison to what Sydney ppl are used to.
During orientation we were told that WAAPA is isolated so agents dont poach. It has also been posted previously on this forum by Crispian.
And if you think the lowest Virgin return fare of $400 - $450 is cheap, you must be rich. In 3 years $450 was the cheapest return tickets I could get from both airlines. Most times especially during hols it was around $700 + cos you cant go anywhere during the semester only break. So Eastern staters dont plan to visit family and friends too often. OOh yeah thats real cheap
Accommodation - I tried for 6 weeks and paid through the nose before I shared some 10 km away, not really near close public transport but had to walk 2 km for the bus. All student accom was taken by international students and got knocked back by real estate agents cos I didnt have references, Never had to rent before. Student accom tried desperately to help me out and finally got a share. Out of pocket $2500 before I started. Lucky I had parent to help me out otherwise I would have been up shit creek.
Dont tell me whats right or wrong and I never been there. The course was great but I am telling Eastern staters to look in their own back yard first.
I have seen first hand them tear students to shreds. Dont tell me they dont. If anyone cant take full on critisism dont go
I am trying to help out eastern state people thank you, they need to weigh up if they can afford the move. WAAPA is great no bones about that part. So Labrug and David Meadows you both from the Eastern states and can make comment on what I have said.
Melbourne isnt Paris. Toowoomba isnt Melbourne. Melbourne isnt Sydney. Sydney aint London. Adelaide isnt Perth. Perth aint Sydney......
and so it goes on.
Anyone with any sense can understand that Perth is going to be a different experience from living in Syd or Melb. Surely if your drive is to further your career in the Performing arts then you might rise above such 'inconveniences'.
WAAPA is as good as it gets in this country. It isnt the 'be all and end all' - nor is any other institution, but if you really find it too much too stomach I am sure there are thousands of others who would only be too glad to forsake mummy's homecooking for three years.
It might be hard. Never mind.
Its a breeze compared to forging a career in the real world.
PS. I am a WAAPA grad. Happily existed in Perth and Sydney.
Der.
You state the bleeding obvious!! Sometimes I wonder about people.
My advise was for those in the eastern states to way up what they want from the course, how much they are willing to sacrifice both financially and emotionally.
Not everyone thinks the same!! As I said I loved the course, was out of packet financially and COMPARED TO SYDNEY ( no other fricken city, that was a joke right) Perth is boring as shit. Thats my opinion
Not every interstate person who was at WAAPA was happy with Perth. If this is what anyone wants to do go for it, I reckon its the best place to learn but there are BUTS.
Melbourne aint Paris well WAAPA aint in Paris or Toowoomba or Adelaide or Melbourne. WAAPA is in Perth if you didnt know.
"Its a breeze compared to forging a career in the real world"- what does that mean WAAPA and Perth are not the real world. Hey look, the WAAPA course, to repeat myself, is the best. Interstate people just need to way things up cos WAAPA doesnt like to be mucked around either. I mean like, Interstate people dropping out.
Mothers home cooking,- my mother died 10 years ago and I have always cooked myself. But hey if others dont want to miss home cooking dont go and waste there time. Fair enough comment.
Do you know that some people who were around at WAAPA when I was there, didnt think about anything else but the course, then as the years went on found Perth boring as shit and a few other inconveniences, and no some people dont have sense or should I say, are so focused on their goal that they lose sight of other things, then these other things start to get to them and a couple dropped out. What Im saying is, they stuffed WAAPA around. I can tell you WAAPA were not happy!!!
Hey you agree with me "Surely if your drive is to further your career in the Performing arts then you might rise above such 'inconveniences'. I rose and stuck it out, it cost me but this is what others have to way up. How bad do they want it, what are they willing to sacrifice, some people just dont like inconveniences. Some people are so focused they lose track of their surroundings. What I said before- they shouldnt waste WAAPA's time should they!
Life is much more interesting there. And there are some great schools. RADA, Guildhall, etc etc the list goes on forever.
Life's too short to stuff a mushroom
www.tonymoore.id.au
Humm interesting choice of words. whether it is interesting there or not, dont individuals need to assess their own lives to see what they want.
Sydney/Melbourne is not Perth and people do get really disappointed. Not everyone has THAT focus or should I say, they think they have the focus until they find their surroundings boring. You cant study 24/7. Classic example was that little Miss, whats her name, from Sydney who did the BA and complained the whole time about Perth and made everyones life miserable.
Really way up what you want from the course and if you are prepared for a lifestyle change. If not, dont audition and waste valuable time.
I've heard that once you get into WAAPA, you cannot audition for any other performance outside of WAAPA (specifically acting). Is this true? I imagine you'd be pretty buggered anyway, as the course is full on.
Don't know about any of the Bachelor courses, but for certificate it was more of a request, so that people don't skip classes in favour of performing elsewhere.
No you cant audition for anything else. you are commited wholely to the BA course. and your right, you are too buggered.
some cert do audition for shows and yes it is a requested for them not too but only if it interferes. The CERT is Tues and WED night and all Sat arvo so plenty of time to do a show.
Yes, the agreement that students are supposed to make with ECU is to focus purely on their studies with out outside distractions. The idea is to allow a focus on the methods being taught with contamination or watering down of external influences. However, I don't know that it is writing nor can they enforce it.
Please note, that while I have auditioned, I have never done the course myself. I have worked (in the past) with students of WAAPA while they were studying on external perfomances and this is what I have learned from them.
Yes, they do work you quite extensively and most students are 'buggered'. There are always a few that cannot get enough and continue to work beyond the course.
Dixi
Jeff Watkins Perth based Actor/Performer who can also sing Fight/Sword Choreographer Virgin Director
Not being allowed to audition for anything outside of the course is standard at any acting school. But trust me, when studying full time and working a regular job part time to pay the rent- you've got no time or energy to focus on anything else. A course like this is all consuming. I studied at another institution, but without a doubt, WAAPA churns out a lot of talent.
All of the nasty talk about Perth? Never been there myself, but the city in which you study is irrelevant. I studied in the same state as my family and never saw them. Just no time. Your class mates become your family, and acting students are usually too poor to go out shopping and partying. (Cheap wine and pizza nights- yeah!)
Think seriously before taking on something like this.. It's a huge decision- I had the best and worst 3 years of my life-and I would change a second of it.
As for the original comment- I don't think I can take it seriously. For those actually interested in auditioning- NEVER write your own audition monologue!!
Yes totally agree with your comment, think seriously before taking on something like this.
I live in Sydney and have been to Perth and it is a beautiful city and yes its so true the city you study in is irrelevant but only if you can afford it.
I can see the other guys point though, I would love to study at WAAPA but I need to spend the whole time in Perth and not see family for 3 years, I cant afford that sort of airfare cost. I never really thought of all of that. I am a big girl and can live without my parents dont get me wrong but its occasions like Christmas that could be a problem. Christmas hol airfares perth to Sydney return are not cheap
I am going to check out whats available in Sydney - any recommendations
theres this good course thats only new its called CODA and it is at a school called 'sing over king' in newtown, its only a one year course but i have a friend who is doing it and they love it, its apparently really hard work and very challenging and they are now completely prepared for professional auditions (both acting and music theatre). Apparently its a good place to make connections as well because they have alot of celebrity guests and people working in the industry come to talk to them. Only 10 people are accepted every year i think, which is good because the teachers can spend mroe time workign with you privately and they get to perform and write their own cabaret in the middle of the year plus they have a showcase at the end of the year to agents. So if you dont think you're ready to make the moove to WA or wherever this looks like a great course. they have a web site too its www.singoverking.com