Checking out a gift horse orally
Sat, 24 July 2004, 09:25 pmWalter Plinge7 posts in thread
Checking out a gift horse orally
Sat, 24 July 2004, 09:25 pmThis is a really good board but I have a couple of questions
Sorry if this isn't the right spot
1) Why don't posters have to log in.??. Until now it hasn't been a problem but immature troll posting should not be allowed on a board frequented by young performers (cough mr bastard cough). I know it's very easy to just use another email and get another account but I feel this would prevent some of the sudden drops in IQ and social intelligence that have happened recently
2) Why does each post take so long to load... other bulletin boards seem to update messages in a thread together.. sorry if that sounds petty
This is only intended as constructive criticism.. I found this board very useful
Sorry if this isn't the right spot
1) Why don't posters have to log in.??. Until now it hasn't been a problem but immature troll posting should not be allowed on a board frequented by young performers (cough mr bastard cough). I know it's very easy to just use another email and get another account but I feel this would prevent some of the sudden drops in IQ and social intelligence that have happened recently
2) Why does each post take so long to load... other bulletin boards seem to update messages in a thread together.. sorry if that sounds petty
This is only intended as constructive criticism.. I found this board very useful
Re: Help! (film musical, The Beatles 1965)
Wed, 28 July 2004, 12:16 amlaura wrote:
>
> hello,
>
> after reading these three posts about this boards content,
> i'm just wondering if this musical board is to only ask
> questions on, because when i asked about WAAPA awhile ago i
> got lots of help, but my last two posts about Hello
> Dolly,Cats and now Seven Brides for Seven Brothers have got
> no replys....
Hi Laura
There's no reason why you can't start up a discussion in this forum about anything to do with musicals.
Unfortunately, if you get no response it may be because your post has slipped by unnoticed, as people are focussed on other topics. Or it may be just that no one feels they have any ideas to contribute at this time.
I have to admit I was a little confused about your post about "Seven Brides.." because you seem to be referencing the MGM film that was made in 1954? I don't know of any other live productions anywhere in Aus.
Criticising a film version of a musical is rather different to discussing a live staged version. For a start, that dance sequence you mentioned (the barn raising scene, from memory?) would have been carefully constructed shot by shot, and even though they did tend in the 50's to film long sequences as if they were fully staged (and there were less technical tricks available to 'fake' it), they still had the advantage of editing, and perfecting difficult dance sequences for that one good take....unlike a stage show which is more difficult to create because you can't do the sequences separately, and it must be recreatable throughout a season.
It's been ages since I saw the film but I reckon some of the problems you'd encounter in trying to stage it today are in the attitudes inherent in the story....the rough cowboys go into town and kidnap the ladies by beating up their boyfriends, bring them back to be housemaids and cooks, in the process the women make the guys dress nicely and eat with good manners, and then they fall in love with them...!!
We were supposed to find this all highly amusing in the 50's, and somehow a film is excused somewhat because it is a historical record; but I have a feeling that it would be very hard in a modern production to convince audiences to like it much, because of the misogynistic and somewhat violent attitudes toward women.
The songs and dance routines may have been good, but the nature of the story seems to have led this show to be left behind, except at the video store.
Cheers,
Craig
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>
> hello,
>
> after reading these three posts about this boards content,
> i'm just wondering if this musical board is to only ask
> questions on, because when i asked about WAAPA awhile ago i
> got lots of help, but my last two posts about Hello
> Dolly,Cats and now Seven Brides for Seven Brothers have got
> no replys....
Hi Laura
There's no reason why you can't start up a discussion in this forum about anything to do with musicals.
Unfortunately, if you get no response it may be because your post has slipped by unnoticed, as people are focussed on other topics. Or it may be just that no one feels they have any ideas to contribute at this time.
I have to admit I was a little confused about your post about "Seven Brides.." because you seem to be referencing the MGM film that was made in 1954? I don't know of any other live productions anywhere in Aus.
Criticising a film version of a musical is rather different to discussing a live staged version. For a start, that dance sequence you mentioned (the barn raising scene, from memory?) would have been carefully constructed shot by shot, and even though they did tend in the 50's to film long sequences as if they were fully staged (and there were less technical tricks available to 'fake' it), they still had the advantage of editing, and perfecting difficult dance sequences for that one good take....unlike a stage show which is more difficult to create because you can't do the sequences separately, and it must be recreatable throughout a season.
It's been ages since I saw the film but I reckon some of the problems you'd encounter in trying to stage it today are in the attitudes inherent in the story....the rough cowboys go into town and kidnap the ladies by beating up their boyfriends, bring them back to be housemaids and cooks, in the process the women make the guys dress nicely and eat with good manners, and then they fall in love with them...!!
We were supposed to find this all highly amusing in the 50's, and somehow a film is excused somewhat because it is a historical record; but I have a feeling that it would be very hard in a modern production to convince audiences to like it much, because of the misogynistic and somewhat violent attitudes toward women.
The songs and dance routines may have been good, but the nature of the story seems to have led this show to be left behind, except at the video store.
Cheers,
Craig
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