The HOBYAHS - review
Sat, 24 Dec 2005, 09:07 amcuchulainn18 posts in thread
The HOBYAHS - review
Sat, 24 Dec 2005, 09:07 amShow: "The HOBYAHS" (pronounced Hob-yars)
Description: Traditional English-style panto with a distinctly Australian flavour.
Potted Plot: Captain Lightning, a falsely accused bushranger, and his horse, Barney, are on the run from the bombastic Trooper Trott, when they meet the Peppercorn family -- Mr Peppercorn (traditional panto comic), Mrs Peppercorn (traditional panto Dame) and their young daughter, Amelia -- who are returning from the city with their winter supplies.
The young couple fall instantly in love and rendezvous by the creek as night falls. Captain Lightning warns Amelia not to go out alone after dark because the horrible, green Hobyahs have woken from their 100-year sleep and are on the prowl, looking for people to eat.
The Hobyahs eventually capture everyone but Captain Lightning, who rescues them all, drives off the Hobyahs, receives a pardon, marries Amelia and everyone lives happily ever after in the Gloomy Gullies.
Cuchulainn's Review:
This is the thirtieth anniversary season of this rollicking panto, last seen in Melbourne at the National Theatre in 1986 starring the ever-youthful Darryl Cotton as Captain Lightning.
A co-production by Diamond Valley Singers and The Children's Theatre Company of Victoria, it's a show that will thrill kids of all ages -- even pre-schoolers.
John Counsel and Greg Simmons, both former primary school teachers, wrote the clever script to appeal to everyone. Littlies as young as three can follow the story purely on the action, which is based on the attention span of a 3-year-old. Older, school-age kids can follow the dialogue and the constant jokes and sight gags, while adults will enjoy a whole different level of entertainment through irony, humour and subtle innuendo. (It goes right over the kids' heads!)
Anyone familiar with the original story from the Victorian Second Book, a reader for second grade in primary schools from 1937 to 1952, may wonder how such a grisly, terrifying tale translates to the stage without scaring the wits out of young audiences. The answer is simple: the basic plot remains the same, except for the absence of little yellow dog Dingo, his dismemberment and reconstruction -- which would present some legal and logistical problems! -- and the extraordinary level of audience participation.
I attended the final dress rehearsal, along with a small, but enthralled, audience, and I was transported back to my early days as an avid panto fan at the Tivoli and Princess Theatres in the early 1950s. The Hobyahs themselves, wonderfully played by two teams of young dancers from the north-eastern suburbs, are menacing, but are rarely seen and remain remote from the audience. No young audience members were terrified by them... in fact, the vague scariness seemed to heighten their enjoyment of the show enormously. As the program notes, most children's stories
Captain Lightning (played by Drew Hanna) is a dashing, over-grown 10-year-old who seems to spend most of the show blissfully unaware of the events taking place around him, much to the noisy frustration of the audience. Amelia (played by Esther Counsel) is a heart-winner with a delightful stage manner and voice, and Barney (played by Suzie and Louise Wilton) -- a show stopper with his soft-shoe dancing -- turns out to be the real hero!
Trooper Trott, the bumbling, bragging nemesis of the hero, is played with overblown gusto by co-writer, John Counsel. His constant arguments with the young audience ("There are no such things as Hobyahs!"), and witty banter with Mr and Mrs Peppercorn, are a feature of the show.
Trooper Trott's bad-tempered prize draws after each interval are also a highlight of the show for the kids. Autographed posters, personalised Arrest Warrants and more make for extra fun and enjoyment... entry is free through the prize draw bin in the foyer.
Hen-pecked Mr Peppercorn steals hearts, especially with his jug band song, while his domineering spouse -- far more terrifying than any Hobyahs! -- is a constant source of gratuitous advice, bluster and hilarity. 'Her' strip tease act before bed time is hysterically funny, and the repartee between the pair is a never-ending source of chuckles and side-splitting laughter throughout the show.
The show has three acts and two intervals, and each act is more exciting than the one before it. There are signs in the foyer, and warnings in the excellent program, reminding kids to visit the toilet during interval to avoid any embarassing 'accidents' caused a combination of excitement, involvement and refusal to leave the theatre for any reason once the action begin.
No review of this hilarious production can be considered complete without mentioning the Gloomy Gullies Gala Goodtime Orchestra, a terrific 4-piece band that sits right on the stage and is an integral part of the show. The music is wonderful and encompasses an amazing range of styles, from Irish jig to haunting ballads, jug band and jazz to punk rock... these talented, versatile musicians handle it all in their stride, while alternatively losing or hijacking the plot!
As a long-disappointed fan of traditional children's panto, I have to say that The Hobyahs is, without question, the best I've seen in a generation or more. It's fun, it's exciting, it's noisy (the kids are right into it from the moment Captain Lightning appears in a clap of thunder and flash of lightning at the start of the show), it's hilariously funny, and it appeals to every age group. The songs are foot-tapping and heart-melting and the actors are totally convincing.
When you walk into the theatre and spy the Peppercorn family's hut in the Gloomy Gullies, with the Hobyahs' cave to one side of the stage and the band on the other, sunlight trickling through treetops, you can sense that you're about to experience something special.
You won't be disappointed.
The programs: It's been a long time since I saw a program with so much appeal for children. Full colour throughout, it includes colour photos of the characters and actors, background information and words to songs for singing along. And at just $2 each, every kid can afford one. The large fold-out poster in the centre will be a feature on bedroom walls for months to come.
Finally, let me mention the production's web site. It's astonishing! You can find out almost anything you could imagine about the show, the season, the songs, the characters... there are games to download, print-your-own WANTED posters, you can listen to all the longs on streaming audio, as well as book and pay for your tickets. Be sure you visit it if you're connected to the Internet at www.hobyahs.com.
Where is it?
Warrandyte High School Theatre, Warrandyte-Heidelberg Road (just past Templestowe) -- Melway Map 34 H 2. One of the best in Melbourne for children's shows -- every seat has clear views of all the action, and the sound system is excellent.
Don't let the location put you off. It's easy to find and easy to get to. From the south and east take Springvale, Blackburn or Middleborough Roads to Reynolds Road, then take Anderson's Creek Road to Warrandyte-Heidelberg Road. Head right (east) toward Warrandyte and the school is at the top of the first hill -- watch for the large Hobyahs sign! you can't miss it.
From the north and west, take Bell Street, the Eastern Freeway or Ring Road to Tram Road/Williamson's Road/Fitszimons Lane (same road), then turn east into Porter Street -- which becomes Warrandyte-Heidelberg Road.
When is it?
Monday 26 to Friday 30 December, and Tuesday 3 to Sunday 8 January.
Every day at 2.00 pm and Thursday, Friday and Saturdays at 7:30 pm as well.
How much is it?
Tickets are all at kids' prices -- $18 per person. For families or groups of 5 or more, tickets are just $15 each... brilliant value! Book online at the outstanding web site at www.hobyahs.com, or by phone on 03-9435-6639.
Cuchulainn's Rating:
SIX stars out of five! This is a show you shouldn't miss. Only the cruellest parents would even think of not taking their children to see what will be one of the entertainment highlights of their young lives.
And if you think I'm being uncharacteristically enthusiastic, I am. It's been a long, long time since I enjoyed any show as much as this one. Congratulations, Diamond Valley Singers and The Children's Theatre Company of Victoria... you have an absolute winner on your hands!
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Description: Traditional English-style panto with a distinctly Australian flavour.
Potted Plot: Captain Lightning, a falsely accused bushranger, and his horse, Barney, are on the run from the bombastic Trooper Trott, when they meet the Peppercorn family -- Mr Peppercorn (traditional panto comic), Mrs Peppercorn (traditional panto Dame) and their young daughter, Amelia -- who are returning from the city with their winter supplies.
The young couple fall instantly in love and rendezvous by the creek as night falls. Captain Lightning warns Amelia not to go out alone after dark because the horrible, green Hobyahs have woken from their 100-year sleep and are on the prowl, looking for people to eat.
The Hobyahs eventually capture everyone but Captain Lightning, who rescues them all, drives off the Hobyahs, receives a pardon, marries Amelia and everyone lives happily ever after in the Gloomy Gullies.
Cuchulainn's Review:
This is the thirtieth anniversary season of this rollicking panto, last seen in Melbourne at the National Theatre in 1986 starring the ever-youthful Darryl Cotton as Captain Lightning.
A co-production by Diamond Valley Singers and The Children's Theatre Company of Victoria, it's a show that will thrill kids of all ages -- even pre-schoolers.
John Counsel and Greg Simmons, both former primary school teachers, wrote the clever script to appeal to everyone. Littlies as young as three can follow the story purely on the action, which is based on the attention span of a 3-year-old. Older, school-age kids can follow the dialogue and the constant jokes and sight gags, while adults will enjoy a whole different level of entertainment through irony, humour and subtle innuendo. (It goes right over the kids' heads!)
Anyone familiar with the original story from the Victorian Second Book, a reader for second grade in primary schools from 1937 to 1952, may wonder how such a grisly, terrifying tale translates to the stage without scaring the wits out of young audiences. The answer is simple: the basic plot remains the same, except for the absence of little yellow dog Dingo, his dismemberment and reconstruction -- which would present some legal and logistical problems! -- and the extraordinary level of audience participation.
I attended the final dress rehearsal, along with a small, but enthralled, audience, and I was transported back to my early days as an avid panto fan at the Tivoli and Princess Theatres in the early 1950s. The Hobyahs themselves, wonderfully played by two teams of young dancers from the north-eastern suburbs, are menacing, but are rarely seen and remain remote from the audience. No young audience members were terrified by them... in fact, the vague scariness seemed to heighten their enjoyment of the show enormously. As the program notes, most children's stories
Captain Lightning (played by Drew Hanna) is a dashing, over-grown 10-year-old who seems to spend most of the show blissfully unaware of the events taking place around him, much to the noisy frustration of the audience. Amelia (played by Esther Counsel) is a heart-winner with a delightful stage manner and voice, and Barney (played by Suzie and Louise Wilton) -- a show stopper with his soft-shoe dancing -- turns out to be the real hero!
Trooper Trott, the bumbling, bragging nemesis of the hero, is played with overblown gusto by co-writer, John Counsel. His constant arguments with the young audience ("There are no such things as Hobyahs!"), and witty banter with Mr and Mrs Peppercorn, are a feature of the show.
Trooper Trott's bad-tempered prize draws after each interval are also a highlight of the show for the kids. Autographed posters, personalised Arrest Warrants and more make for extra fun and enjoyment... entry is free through the prize draw bin in the foyer.
Hen-pecked Mr Peppercorn steals hearts, especially with his jug band song, while his domineering spouse -- far more terrifying than any Hobyahs! -- is a constant source of gratuitous advice, bluster and hilarity. 'Her' strip tease act before bed time is hysterically funny, and the repartee between the pair is a never-ending source of chuckles and side-splitting laughter throughout the show.
The show has three acts and two intervals, and each act is more exciting than the one before it. There are signs in the foyer, and warnings in the excellent program, reminding kids to visit the toilet during interval to avoid any embarassing 'accidents' caused a combination of excitement, involvement and refusal to leave the theatre for any reason once the action begin.
No review of this hilarious production can be considered complete without mentioning the Gloomy Gullies Gala Goodtime Orchestra, a terrific 4-piece band that sits right on the stage and is an integral part of the show. The music is wonderful and encompasses an amazing range of styles, from Irish jig to haunting ballads, jug band and jazz to punk rock... these talented, versatile musicians handle it all in their stride, while alternatively losing or hijacking the plot!
As a long-disappointed fan of traditional children's panto, I have to say that The Hobyahs is, without question, the best I've seen in a generation or more. It's fun, it's exciting, it's noisy (the kids are right into it from the moment Captain Lightning appears in a clap of thunder and flash of lightning at the start of the show), it's hilariously funny, and it appeals to every age group. The songs are foot-tapping and heart-melting and the actors are totally convincing.
When you walk into the theatre and spy the Peppercorn family's hut in the Gloomy Gullies, with the Hobyahs' cave to one side of the stage and the band on the other, sunlight trickling through treetops, you can sense that you're about to experience something special.
You won't be disappointed.
The programs: It's been a long time since I saw a program with so much appeal for children. Full colour throughout, it includes colour photos of the characters and actors, background information and words to songs for singing along. And at just $2 each, every kid can afford one. The large fold-out poster in the centre will be a feature on bedroom walls for months to come.
Finally, let me mention the production's web site. It's astonishing! You can find out almost anything you could imagine about the show, the season, the songs, the characters... there are games to download, print-your-own WANTED posters, you can listen to all the longs on streaming audio, as well as book and pay for your tickets. Be sure you visit it if you're connected to the Internet at www.hobyahs.com.
Where is it?
Warrandyte High School Theatre, Warrandyte-Heidelberg Road (just past Templestowe) -- Melway Map 34 H 2. One of the best in Melbourne for children's shows -- every seat has clear views of all the action, and the sound system is excellent.
Don't let the location put you off. It's easy to find and easy to get to. From the south and east take Springvale, Blackburn or Middleborough Roads to Reynolds Road, then take Anderson's Creek Road to Warrandyte-Heidelberg Road. Head right (east) toward Warrandyte and the school is at the top of the first hill -- watch for the large Hobyahs sign! you can't miss it.
From the north and west, take Bell Street, the Eastern Freeway or Ring Road to Tram Road/Williamson's Road/Fitszimons Lane (same road), then turn east into Porter Street -- which becomes Warrandyte-Heidelberg Road.
When is it?
Monday 26 to Friday 30 December, and Tuesday 3 to Sunday 8 January.
Every day at 2.00 pm and Thursday, Friday and Saturdays at 7:30 pm as well.
How much is it?
Tickets are all at kids' prices -- $18 per person. For families or groups of 5 or more, tickets are just $15 each... brilliant value! Book online at the outstanding web site at www.hobyahs.com, or by phone on 03-9435-6639.
Cuchulainn's Rating:
SIX stars out of five! This is a show you shouldn't miss. Only the cruellest parents would even think of not taking their children to see what will be one of the entertainment highlights of their young lives.
And if you think I'm being uncharacteristically enthusiastic, I am. It's been a long, long time since I enjoyed any show as much as this one. Congratulations, Diamond Valley Singers and The Children's Theatre Company of Victoria... you have an absolute winner on your hands!
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cuchulainnSat, 24 Dec 2005, 09:07 am
Show: "The HOBYAHS" (pronounced Hob-yars)
Description: Traditional English-style panto with a distinctly Australian flavour.
Potted Plot: Captain Lightning, a falsely accused bushranger, and his horse, Barney, are on the run from the bombastic Trooper Trott, when they meet the Peppercorn family -- Mr Peppercorn (traditional panto comic), Mrs Peppercorn (traditional panto Dame) and their young daughter, Amelia -- who are returning from the city with their winter supplies.
The young couple fall instantly in love and rendezvous by the creek as night falls. Captain Lightning warns Amelia not to go out alone after dark because the horrible, green Hobyahs have woken from their 100-year sleep and are on the prowl, looking for people to eat.
The Hobyahs eventually capture everyone but Captain Lightning, who rescues them all, drives off the Hobyahs, receives a pardon, marries Amelia and everyone lives happily ever after in the Gloomy Gullies.
Cuchulainn's Review:
This is the thirtieth anniversary season of this rollicking panto, last seen in Melbourne at the National Theatre in 1986 starring the ever-youthful Darryl Cotton as Captain Lightning.
A co-production by Diamond Valley Singers and The Children's Theatre Company of Victoria, it's a show that will thrill kids of all ages -- even pre-schoolers.
John Counsel and Greg Simmons, both former primary school teachers, wrote the clever script to appeal to everyone. Littlies as young as three can follow the story purely on the action, which is based on the attention span of a 3-year-old. Older, school-age kids can follow the dialogue and the constant jokes and sight gags, while adults will enjoy a whole different level of entertainment through irony, humour and subtle innuendo. (It goes right over the kids' heads!)
Anyone familiar with the original story from the Victorian Second Book, a reader for second grade in primary schools from 1937 to 1952, may wonder how such a grisly, terrifying tale translates to the stage without scaring the wits out of young audiences. The answer is simple: the basic plot remains the same, except for the absence of little yellow dog Dingo, his dismemberment and reconstruction -- which would present some legal and logistical problems! -- and the extraordinary level of audience participation.
I attended the final dress rehearsal, along with a small, but enthralled, audience, and I was transported back to my early days as an avid panto fan at the Tivoli and Princess Theatres in the early 1950s. The Hobyahs themselves, wonderfully played by two teams of young dancers from the north-eastern suburbs, are menacing, but are rarely seen and remain remote from the audience. No young audience members were terrified by them... in fact, the vague scariness seemed to heighten their enjoyment of the show enormously. As the program notes, most children's stories
Captain Lightning (played by Drew Hanna) is a dashing, over-grown 10-year-old who seems to spend most of the show blissfully unaware of the events taking place around him, much to the noisy frustration of the audience. Amelia (played by Esther Counsel) is a heart-winner with a delightful stage manner and voice, and Barney (played by Suzie and Louise Wilton) -- a show stopper with his soft-shoe dancing -- turns out to be the real hero!
Trooper Trott, the bumbling, bragging nemesis of the hero, is played with overblown gusto by co-writer, John Counsel. His constant arguments with the young audience ("There are no such things as Hobyahs!"), and witty banter with Mr and Mrs Peppercorn, are a feature of the show.
Trooper Trott's bad-tempered prize draws after each interval are also a highlight of the show for the kids. Autographed posters, personalised Arrest Warrants and more make for extra fun and enjoyment... entry is free through the prize draw bin in the foyer.
Hen-pecked Mr Peppercorn steals hearts, especially with his jug band song, while his domineering spouse -- far more terrifying than any Hobyahs! -- is a constant source of gratuitous advice, bluster and hilarity. 'Her' strip tease act before bed time is hysterically funny, and the repartee between the pair is a never-ending source of chuckles and side-splitting laughter throughout the show.
The show has three acts and two intervals, and each act is more exciting than the one before it. There are signs in the foyer, and warnings in the excellent program, reminding kids to visit the toilet during interval to avoid any embarassing 'accidents' caused a combination of excitement, involvement and refusal to leave the theatre for any reason once the action begin.
No review of this hilarious production can be considered complete without mentioning the Gloomy Gullies Gala Goodtime Orchestra, a terrific 4-piece band that sits right on the stage and is an integral part of the show. The music is wonderful and encompasses an amazing range of styles, from Irish jig to haunting ballads, jug band and jazz to punk rock... these talented, versatile musicians handle it all in their stride, while alternatively losing or hijacking the plot!
As a long-disappointed fan of traditional children's panto, I have to say that The Hobyahs is, without question, the best I've seen in a generation or more. It's fun, it's exciting, it's noisy (the kids are right into it from the moment Captain Lightning appears in a clap of thunder and flash of lightning at the start of the show), it's hilariously funny, and it appeals to every age group. The songs are foot-tapping and heart-melting and the actors are totally convincing.
When you walk into the theatre and spy the Peppercorn family's hut in the Gloomy Gullies, with the Hobyahs' cave to one side of the stage and the band on the other, sunlight trickling through treetops, you can sense that you're about to experience something special.
You won't be disappointed.
The programs: It's been a long time since I saw a program with so much appeal for children. Full colour throughout, it includes colour photos of the characters and actors, background information and words to songs for singing along. And at just $2 each, every kid can afford one. The large fold-out poster in the centre will be a feature on bedroom walls for months to come.
Finally, let me mention the production's web site. It's astonishing! You can find out almost anything you could imagine about the show, the season, the songs, the characters... there are games to download, print-your-own WANTED posters, you can listen to all the longs on streaming audio, as well as book and pay for your tickets. Be sure you visit it if you're connected to the Internet at www.hobyahs.com.
Where is it?
Warrandyte High School Theatre, Warrandyte-Heidelberg Road (just past Templestowe) -- Melway Map 34 H 2. One of the best in Melbourne for children's shows -- every seat has clear views of all the action, and the sound system is excellent.
Don't let the location put you off. It's easy to find and easy to get to. From the south and east take Springvale, Blackburn or Middleborough Roads to Reynolds Road, then take Anderson's Creek Road to Warrandyte-Heidelberg Road. Head right (east) toward Warrandyte and the school is at the top of the first hill -- watch for the large Hobyahs sign! you can't miss it.
From the north and west, take Bell Street, the Eastern Freeway or Ring Road to Tram Road/Williamson's Road/Fitszimons Lane (same road), then turn east into Porter Street -- which becomes Warrandyte-Heidelberg Road.
When is it?
Monday 26 to Friday 30 December, and Tuesday 3 to Sunday 8 January.
Every day at 2.00 pm and Thursday, Friday and Saturdays at 7:30 pm as well.
How much is it?
Tickets are all at kids' prices -- $18 per person. For families or groups of 5 or more, tickets are just $15 each... brilliant value! Book online at the outstanding web site at www.hobyahs.com, or by phone on 03-9435-6639.
Cuchulainn's Rating:
SIX stars out of five! This is a show you shouldn't miss. Only the cruellest parents would even think of not taking their children to see what will be one of the entertainment highlights of their young lives.
And if you think I'm being uncharacteristically enthusiastic, I am. It's been a long, long time since I enjoyed any show as much as this one. Congratulations, Diamond Valley Singers and The Children's Theatre Company of Victoria... you have an absolute winner on your hands!
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Description: Traditional English-style panto with a distinctly Australian flavour.
Potted Plot: Captain Lightning, a falsely accused bushranger, and his horse, Barney, are on the run from the bombastic Trooper Trott, when they meet the Peppercorn family -- Mr Peppercorn (traditional panto comic), Mrs Peppercorn (traditional panto Dame) and their young daughter, Amelia -- who are returning from the city with their winter supplies.
The young couple fall instantly in love and rendezvous by the creek as night falls. Captain Lightning warns Amelia not to go out alone after dark because the horrible, green Hobyahs have woken from their 100-year sleep and are on the prowl, looking for people to eat.
The Hobyahs eventually capture everyone but Captain Lightning, who rescues them all, drives off the Hobyahs, receives a pardon, marries Amelia and everyone lives happily ever after in the Gloomy Gullies.
Cuchulainn's Review:
This is the thirtieth anniversary season of this rollicking panto, last seen in Melbourne at the National Theatre in 1986 starring the ever-youthful Darryl Cotton as Captain Lightning.
A co-production by Diamond Valley Singers and The Children's Theatre Company of Victoria, it's a show that will thrill kids of all ages -- even pre-schoolers.
John Counsel and Greg Simmons, both former primary school teachers, wrote the clever script to appeal to everyone. Littlies as young as three can follow the story purely on the action, which is based on the attention span of a 3-year-old. Older, school-age kids can follow the dialogue and the constant jokes and sight gags, while adults will enjoy a whole different level of entertainment through irony, humour and subtle innuendo. (It goes right over the kids' heads!)
Anyone familiar with the original story from the Victorian Second Book, a reader for second grade in primary schools from 1937 to 1952, may wonder how such a grisly, terrifying tale translates to the stage without scaring the wits out of young audiences. The answer is simple: the basic plot remains the same, except for the absence of little yellow dog Dingo, his dismemberment and reconstruction -- which would present some legal and logistical problems! -- and the extraordinary level of audience participation.
I attended the final dress rehearsal, along with a small, but enthralled, audience, and I was transported back to my early days as an avid panto fan at the Tivoli and Princess Theatres in the early 1950s. The Hobyahs themselves, wonderfully played by two teams of young dancers from the north-eastern suburbs, are menacing, but are rarely seen and remain remote from the audience. No young audience members were terrified by them... in fact, the vague scariness seemed to heighten their enjoyment of the show enormously. As the program notes, most children's stories
Captain Lightning (played by Drew Hanna) is a dashing, over-grown 10-year-old who seems to spend most of the show blissfully unaware of the events taking place around him, much to the noisy frustration of the audience. Amelia (played by Esther Counsel) is a heart-winner with a delightful stage manner and voice, and Barney (played by Suzie and Louise Wilton) -- a show stopper with his soft-shoe dancing -- turns out to be the real hero!
Trooper Trott, the bumbling, bragging nemesis of the hero, is played with overblown gusto by co-writer, John Counsel. His constant arguments with the young audience ("There are no such things as Hobyahs!"), and witty banter with Mr and Mrs Peppercorn, are a feature of the show.
Trooper Trott's bad-tempered prize draws after each interval are also a highlight of the show for the kids. Autographed posters, personalised Arrest Warrants and more make for extra fun and enjoyment... entry is free through the prize draw bin in the foyer.
Hen-pecked Mr Peppercorn steals hearts, especially with his jug band song, while his domineering spouse -- far more terrifying than any Hobyahs! -- is a constant source of gratuitous advice, bluster and hilarity. 'Her' strip tease act before bed time is hysterically funny, and the repartee between the pair is a never-ending source of chuckles and side-splitting laughter throughout the show.
The show has three acts and two intervals, and each act is more exciting than the one before it. There are signs in the foyer, and warnings in the excellent program, reminding kids to visit the toilet during interval to avoid any embarassing 'accidents' caused a combination of excitement, involvement and refusal to leave the theatre for any reason once the action begin.
No review of this hilarious production can be considered complete without mentioning the Gloomy Gullies Gala Goodtime Orchestra, a terrific 4-piece band that sits right on the stage and is an integral part of the show. The music is wonderful and encompasses an amazing range of styles, from Irish jig to haunting ballads, jug band and jazz to punk rock... these talented, versatile musicians handle it all in their stride, while alternatively losing or hijacking the plot!
As a long-disappointed fan of traditional children's panto, I have to say that The Hobyahs is, without question, the best I've seen in a generation or more. It's fun, it's exciting, it's noisy (the kids are right into it from the moment Captain Lightning appears in a clap of thunder and flash of lightning at the start of the show), it's hilariously funny, and it appeals to every age group. The songs are foot-tapping and heart-melting and the actors are totally convincing.
When you walk into the theatre and spy the Peppercorn family's hut in the Gloomy Gullies, with the Hobyahs' cave to one side of the stage and the band on the other, sunlight trickling through treetops, you can sense that you're about to experience something special.
You won't be disappointed.
The programs: It's been a long time since I saw a program with so much appeal for children. Full colour throughout, it includes colour photos of the characters and actors, background information and words to songs for singing along. And at just $2 each, every kid can afford one. The large fold-out poster in the centre will be a feature on bedroom walls for months to come.
Finally, let me mention the production's web site. It's astonishing! You can find out almost anything you could imagine about the show, the season, the songs, the characters... there are games to download, print-your-own WANTED posters, you can listen to all the longs on streaming audio, as well as book and pay for your tickets. Be sure you visit it if you're connected to the Internet at www.hobyahs.com.
Where is it?
Warrandyte High School Theatre, Warrandyte-Heidelberg Road (just past Templestowe) -- Melway Map 34 H 2. One of the best in Melbourne for children's shows -- every seat has clear views of all the action, and the sound system is excellent.
Don't let the location put you off. It's easy to find and easy to get to. From the south and east take Springvale, Blackburn or Middleborough Roads to Reynolds Road, then take Anderson's Creek Road to Warrandyte-Heidelberg Road. Head right (east) toward Warrandyte and the school is at the top of the first hill -- watch for the large Hobyahs sign! you can't miss it.
From the north and west, take Bell Street, the Eastern Freeway or Ring Road to Tram Road/Williamson's Road/Fitszimons Lane (same road), then turn east into Porter Street -- which becomes Warrandyte-Heidelberg Road.
When is it?
Monday 26 to Friday 30 December, and Tuesday 3 to Sunday 8 January.
Every day at 2.00 pm and Thursday, Friday and Saturdays at 7:30 pm as well.
How much is it?
Tickets are all at kids' prices -- $18 per person. For families or groups of 5 or more, tickets are just $15 each... brilliant value! Book online at the outstanding web site at www.hobyahs.com, or by phone on 03-9435-6639.
Cuchulainn's Rating:
SIX stars out of five! This is a show you shouldn't miss. Only the cruellest parents would even think of not taking their children to see what will be one of the entertainment highlights of their young lives.
And if you think I'm being uncharacteristically enthusiastic, I am. It's been a long, long time since I enjoyed any show as much as this one. Congratulations, Diamond Valley Singers and The Children's Theatre Company of Victoria... you have an absolute winner on your hands!
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Walter PlingeMon, 26 Dec 2005, 07:01 pm
Re: The HOBYAHS - review
I took my two children to see this pantomime today (Boxing Day) and it as FABULOUS!
At the first interval the little girl in front of us asked her Mum if it was the end of the show. Her mother assured her it wasn't and asked her why she was so concerned. "Oh, I don't want it to ever, ever end!" sighed the tiny tot ecstatically.
This review says it all. All the way home, the kids were plaguing me to take them again. We'll definitely be doing so, and taking a whole group with us. That group discount is terrific value.
We also loved the photo session after the show. What a great idea!
If you haven't seen it yet, don't miss it. It has everything. Wonderful!
Mary C
Kensington
At the first interval the little girl in front of us asked her Mum if it was the end of the show. Her mother assured her it wasn't and asked her why she was so concerned. "Oh, I don't want it to ever, ever end!" sighed the tiny tot ecstatically.
This review says it all. All the way home, the kids were plaguing me to take them again. We'll definitely be doing so, and taking a whole group with us. That group discount is terrific value.
We also loved the photo session after the show. What a great idea!
If you haven't seen it yet, don't miss it. It has everything. Wonderful!
Mary C
Kensington
Walter PlingeTue, 27 Dec 2005, 08:56 pm
Re: The HOBYAHS - review
I have to agree with everything written so far. Mary (my sister-in-law) was so excited by the show that I had to see for myself, so I took my two children this afternoon and it was fabulous. The kids were playing "hobyahs" right up until their bed time!
I had no idea a children's show could be so funny for adults. My sides were aching after the second act. Mrs Peppercorn's "Peppercorn Punk" song was an absolute hoot.
I'm a professional musician and I fell in love with the music, especially the two songs sung by Amelia. What a superb voice and only sixteen! The band was also brilliant. I'm listening to the audio tracks from the last season on the web site as I write. I do hope that Esther Counsel's versions of those two ballads by Amelia will be available soon. She has a great future as a performer.
Trooper Trot's drooping gun barrel was another constant giggle, and his manner and make-up reminded me very much of "Aggro" the puppet on TV. There were so many things to entertain us, and so many things happening all the time.
I have to mention the children who played the hobyahs, too. They were wonderful and their costumes were so good. Everyone associated with this show should feel justly proud. It's hard to find the words to describe what a good feeling it leaves you with.
Thank you to everyone. Now my hubby feels very jealous at being left out and is talking about taking the children by himself. Not without me, he won't!
Kerrie Argent
Melton
I had no idea a children's show could be so funny for adults. My sides were aching after the second act. Mrs Peppercorn's "Peppercorn Punk" song was an absolute hoot.
I'm a professional musician and I fell in love with the music, especially the two songs sung by Amelia. What a superb voice and only sixteen! The band was also brilliant. I'm listening to the audio tracks from the last season on the web site as I write. I do hope that Esther Counsel's versions of those two ballads by Amelia will be available soon. She has a great future as a performer.
Trooper Trot's drooping gun barrel was another constant giggle, and his manner and make-up reminded me very much of "Aggro" the puppet on TV. There were so many things to entertain us, and so many things happening all the time.
I have to mention the children who played the hobyahs, too. They were wonderful and their costumes were so good. Everyone associated with this show should feel justly proud. It's hard to find the words to describe what a good feeling it leaves you with.
Thank you to everyone. Now my hubby feels very jealous at being left out and is talking about taking the children by himself. Not without me, he won't!
Kerrie Argent
Melton
Walter PlingeSat, 31 Dec 2005, 04:44 am
The HOBYAHS
Hi, I remembered the story from my school days and went on Thursday evening. I was surprised that there were almost no children in the audience, it was nearly all adults.
I laughed so hard I was almost ill. The "off the cuff" repartee was brilliant and geared to the audience and the audience participation was incredible.
I have never seen anything like it before. It's a wonderful show for any age group. There wasn't dull moment all night.
I'll be back next week with my grandchildren. I would not want them to miss this experience.
M. Sargeant
Camberwell
I laughed so hard I was almost ill. The "off the cuff" repartee was brilliant and geared to the audience and the audience participation was incredible.
I have never seen anything like it before. It's a wonderful show for any age group. There wasn't dull moment all night.
I'll be back next week with my grandchildren. I would not want them to miss this experience.
M. Sargeant
Camberwell
Walter PlingeSat, 31 Dec 2005, 04:55 am
Re: The HOBYAHS - review
I went on Friday afternoon and there were lots of really young children in the audience, including my own. They LOVED it. (So did I!)
Honestly, I've been so disillusioned with children's shows over the years, but the Hobyahs has restored my faith. There was so much going on that we never knew what to expect next. One minute we were watching in alarm as the Hobyahs carried of someone new, the next minute we were laughing hysterically at some nonsense from the Peppercorns or the Trooper, or joining in a foot-tapping song with that marvelous orchestra.
Please do another show like this soon. (Is there a sequel? I do hope so.)
Gaye E.
Wantirna South
Honestly, I've been so disillusioned with children's shows over the years, but the Hobyahs has restored my faith. There was so much going on that we never knew what to expect next. One minute we were watching in alarm as the Hobyahs carried of someone new, the next minute we were laughing hysterically at some nonsense from the Peppercorns or the Trooper, or joining in a foot-tapping song with that marvelous orchestra.
Please do another show like this soon. (Is there a sequel? I do hope so.)
Gaye E.
Wantirna South
John CounselSat, 31 Dec 2005, 06:17 am
Re: The HOBYAHS - sequel!
I just noticed Gaye Enticott's question about whether there's a sequel to "The HOBYAHS".
Yes, there is! It's called "Captain Lightning and the Smugglers" and it takes place on the spectacular clifftops and cave-riddled coves of Waratah Bay, overlooking Wilson's Promontory in Victoria.
It's another three-act maelstrom of music, mirth and mayhem... if you enjoyed "The HOBYAHS" you'll love "Captain Lightning and the Smugglers!"
You can learn more about it here:
http://www.childrenstheatrevictoria.com/panto/cls/
Why not join our mailing list for updates and advance notice of productions of our shows? It's free. Send a blank email to:
mailto:updates@childrenstheatrevictoria.com
Thanks for all the terrific reviews and comments about our current production with Diamond Valley Singers!
John Counsel
Executive Director
The Children's Theatre Company of Victoria
Yes, there is! It's called "Captain Lightning and the Smugglers" and it takes place on the spectacular clifftops and cave-riddled coves of Waratah Bay, overlooking Wilson's Promontory in Victoria.
It's another three-act maelstrom of music, mirth and mayhem... if you enjoyed "The HOBYAHS" you'll love "Captain Lightning and the Smugglers!"
You can learn more about it here:
http://www.childrenstheatrevictoria.com/panto/cls/
Why not join our mailing list for updates and advance notice of productions of our shows? It's free. Send a blank email to:
mailto:updates@childrenstheatrevictoria.com
Thanks for all the terrific reviews and comments about our current production with Diamond Valley Singers!
John Counsel
Executive Director
The Children's Theatre Company of Victoria
John CounselSat, 31 Dec 2005, 06:17 am
Re: The HOBYAHS - sequel!
I just noticed Gaye Enticott's question about whether there's a sequel to "The HOBYAHS".
Yes, there is! It's called "Captain Lightning and the Smugglers" and it takes place on the spectacular clifftops and cave-riddled coves of Waratah Bay, overlooking Wilson's Promontory in Victoria.
It's another three-act maelstrom of music, mirth and mayhem... if you enjoyed "The HOBYAHS" you'll love "Captain Lightning and the Smugglers!"
You can learn more about it here:
http://www.childrenstheatrevictoria.com/panto/cls/
Why not join our mailing list for updates and advance notice of productions of our shows? It's free. Send a blank email to:
mailto:updates@childrenstheatrevictoria.com
Thanks for all the terrific reviews and comments about our current production with Diamond Valley Singers!
John Counsel
Executive Director
The Children's Theatre Company of Victoria
Yes, there is! It's called "Captain Lightning and the Smugglers" and it takes place on the spectacular clifftops and cave-riddled coves of Waratah Bay, overlooking Wilson's Promontory in Victoria.
It's another three-act maelstrom of music, mirth and mayhem... if you enjoyed "The HOBYAHS" you'll love "Captain Lightning and the Smugglers!"
You can learn more about it here:
http://www.childrenstheatrevictoria.com/panto/cls/
Why not join our mailing list for updates and advance notice of productions of our shows? It's free. Send a blank email to:
mailto:updates@childrenstheatrevictoria.com
Thanks for all the terrific reviews and comments about our current production with Diamond Valley Singers!
John Counsel
Executive Director
The Children's Theatre Company of Victoria
John CounselSat, 31 Dec 2005, 06:17 am
Re: The HOBYAHS - sequel!
I just noticed Gaye Enticott's question about whether there's a sequel to "The HOBYAHS".
Yes, there is! It's called "Captain Lightning and the Smugglers" and it takes place on the spectacular clifftops and cave-riddled coves of Waratah Bay, overlooking Wilson's Promontory in Victoria.
It's another three-act maelstrom of music, mirth and mayhem... if you enjoyed "The HOBYAHS" you'll love "Captain Lightning and the Smugglers!"
You can learn more about it here:
http://www.childrenstheatrevictoria.com/panto/cls/
Why not join our mailing list for updates and advance notice of productions of our shows? It's free. Send a blank email to:
mailto:updates@childrenstheatrevictoria.com
Thanks for all the terrific reviews and comments about our current production with Diamond Valley Singers!
John Counsel
Executive Director
The Children's Theatre Company of Victoria
Yes, there is! It's called "Captain Lightning and the Smugglers" and it takes place on the spectacular clifftops and cave-riddled coves of Waratah Bay, overlooking Wilson's Promontory in Victoria.
It's another three-act maelstrom of music, mirth and mayhem... if you enjoyed "The HOBYAHS" you'll love "Captain Lightning and the Smugglers!"
You can learn more about it here:
http://www.childrenstheatrevictoria.com/panto/cls/
Why not join our mailing list for updates and advance notice of productions of our shows? It's free. Send a blank email to:
mailto:updates@childrenstheatrevictoria.com
Thanks for all the terrific reviews and comments about our current production with Diamond Valley Singers!
John Counsel
Executive Director
The Children's Theatre Company of Victoria
Walter PlingeSat, 31 Dec 2005, 07:05 am
Re: The HOBYAHS - sequel!
Cuchulainn 24-12-05 09:07 ---.vic.bigpond.net.au
Mary Chiodo 26-12-05 19:01 ---.vic.bigpond.net.au
Kerrie Argent 27-12-05 20:56 ---.vic.bigpond.net.au
Marg Sargeant 31-12-05 04:44 ---.vic.bigpond.net.au
G. Enticott 31-12-05 04:55 ---.vic.bigpond.net.au
John Counsel 31-12-05 06:17 ---.vic.bigpond.net.au
Mary Chiodo 26-12-05 19:01 ---.vic.bigpond.net.au
Kerrie Argent 27-12-05 20:56 ---.vic.bigpond.net.au
Marg Sargeant 31-12-05 04:44 ---.vic.bigpond.net.au
G. Enticott 31-12-05 04:55 ---.vic.bigpond.net.au
John Counsel 31-12-05 06:17 ---.vic.bigpond.net.au
John CounselSat, 31 Dec 2005, 12:21 pm
Re: The HOBYAHS - sequel!
Is this a server report of some kind?
Or is it someone with too much time and too little to do other than jump to risky conclusions -- and insufficient courage to put their name to a lame attempt at mischief-making?
Are you trying to draw an inference here? That all these posts are from Victoria -- like your own -- perhaps?
Hardly surprising that they are... the show has only ever played in Victoria.
That they're all connected via bigpond broadband?
Given that an estimated 60-70% of Victorian broadband connections are through BigPond -- due mostly to predatory pricing policy over the past couple of years, where Telstra retailed its services at lower than its wholesale prices to competing ISPs -- you're stretching the bow a little to conclude anything more than this.
That they're all from the same person?
Considering the fact that most of these posts have actually come from visitors to the production's own web site and CTCV's intranet, where this site is featured and linked-to, and any conclusions you could be perceived to be suggesting begin to look decidedly shaky. Pay a visit to http://www.hobyahs.com/2005/reviews/post.html for more insight.
And, please... show a little spine. Contact me directly and I'll be happy to forward your contact details to any of the writers concerned.
Opinion is no substitute for facts. You're welcome to your opinion, but I suggest that, in the absence of any basis for judgement beyond a suspicious mind and a lamentable lack of factual detail, you think twice before making them public. Others may not be as patient or tolerant.
John
john@childrenstheatrevictoria.com
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TaureanSat, 31 Dec 2005, 05:42 pm
Re: The HOBYAHS - the suspicious critic.
Well, John, seems not everyone enjoyed the show... but I guess ONE miserable soul out of all the rave reviews that "The Hobyahs" have had is nothing to worry about. (It is nice to know that he/she/it is paying attention to the reviews though!) As for me. I havent seen the show and therefore cannot comment on your groups production of the play .....HOWEVER.....my partner spotted the reveiws, had her curiosity tweaked, checked out the website and, having been a keen advocate of youth in theatre for many years, is determined to mount it again. This time in Perth! So I guess your reviews and web site have a lot to answer for!
(Oh, and a brief message to our unsigned critic... you'll notice I am nowhere near Victoria and have nothing to do with Bigpond!!)
Congrats to all concerned for what is obviously a well received production!
(Oh, and a brief message to our unsigned critic... you'll notice I am nowhere near Victoria and have nothing to do with Bigpond!!)
Congrats to all concerned for what is obviously a well received production!
John CounselSun, 1 Jan 2006, 03:25 am
Re: The anonymous finger-pointer
Somehow I doubt that this person went anywhere near a performance.
I have no issue with someone not liking the show and posting a negative review or comment. It's a question of personal taste, after all, and I don't pretend that it's impossible not to like "The Hobyahs".
But I won't sit silently while someone tries to suggest that 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 2 + 2 = 22 and that this is somehow evidence of fraud -- then tries to hide behind a false SMTP server address to say it, without having the gumption to actually coe out and say it, even then.
I'm also saying that I could be completely wrong in my own conclusions, and that I'm perfectly willing to acknowledge it and apologise if I am. But at least I'm up-front about it and about who I am.
John
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I have no issue with someone not liking the show and posting a negative review or comment. It's a question of personal taste, after all, and I don't pretend that it's impossible not to like "The Hobyahs".
But I won't sit silently while someone tries to suggest that 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 2 + 2 = 22 and that this is somehow evidence of fraud -- then tries to hide behind a false SMTP server address to say it, without having the gumption to actually coe out and say it, even then.
I'm also saying that I could be completely wrong in my own conclusions, and that I'm perfectly willing to acknowledge it and apologise if I am. But at least I'm up-front about it and about who I am.
John
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Grant MalcolmSun, 1 Jan 2006, 04:38 pm
Re: anonymous fingerings
John Counsel wrote:
> But I won't sit silently while someone tries to suggest that
> 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 2 + 2 = 22 and that this is somehow evidence
> of fraud -- then tries to hide behind a false SMTP server
> address to say it, without having the gumption to actually
> coe out and say it, even then.
You kind of lost me there, John.
Some Anonymous Coward suggested 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 2 + 2 = 22? which is somehow evidence of fraud? without actually coming out and saying it? all the while, hiding behind a false address?
Maybe not a good idea to post before dawn on New Year's day?
:-)
I think many of us probably have an idea what ---.vic.bigpond.net.au might have been hinting at.
It's not rocket science. The slightly munged host address for each author is displayed at the top of each post next to the author's name.
If I see several posts on the same topic appearing in a short space of time, I'll note the ip addresses myself and draw my own conclusions as I imagine many visitors do.
In that sense you've both done us a service. The AC drew this to y/our attention, you've provided a clarification.
Although I wondered whether the derisive and threatening tone added much weight to your argument?
I also click on the star ratings to see who rated what. Sometimes I think I'm worth five stars, too.
:-)
> I'm also saying that I could be completely wrong in my own
> conclusions, and that I'm perfectly willing to acknowledge it
> and apologise if I am.
Ah, but with any luck the AC has retired with his tail between his legs.
:-)
> But at least I'm up-front about it and
> about who I am.
I couldn't help wondering if you had any relation to Hugh Findoubt?
:-)
I am not who you think I am.
I am not who I think I am.
I am who I think that you think I am.
Cheers
Grant
Thou droning flap-mouthed flirt-gill!
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> But I won't sit silently while someone tries to suggest that
> 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 2 + 2 = 22 and that this is somehow evidence
> of fraud -- then tries to hide behind a false SMTP server
> address to say it, without having the gumption to actually
> coe out and say it, even then.
You kind of lost me there, John.
Some Anonymous Coward suggested 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 2 + 2 = 22? which is somehow evidence of fraud? without actually coming out and saying it? all the while, hiding behind a false address?
Maybe not a good idea to post before dawn on New Year's day?
:-)
I think many of us probably have an idea what ---.vic.bigpond.net.au might have been hinting at.
It's not rocket science. The slightly munged host address for each author is displayed at the top of each post next to the author's name.
If I see several posts on the same topic appearing in a short space of time, I'll note the ip addresses myself and draw my own conclusions as I imagine many visitors do.
In that sense you've both done us a service. The AC drew this to y/our attention, you've provided a clarification.
Although I wondered whether the derisive and threatening tone added much weight to your argument?
I also click on the star ratings to see who rated what. Sometimes I think I'm worth five stars, too.
:-)
> I'm also saying that I could be completely wrong in my own
> conclusions, and that I'm perfectly willing to acknowledge it
> and apologise if I am.
Ah, but with any luck the AC has retired with his tail between his legs.
:-)
> But at least I'm up-front about it and
> about who I am.
I couldn't help wondering if you had any relation to Hugh Findoubt?
:-)
I am not who you think I am.
I am not who I think I am.
I am who I think that you think I am.
Cheers
Grant
Thou droning flap-mouthed flirt-gill!
[%sig%]
NimrodSun, 1 Jan 2006, 06:08 pm
Re: anonymous fingerings
I am so confused by this post. confused confused confused. Why are we making strange mathematical equations and replying to weird postings that don't make any sense in the first place.
Anyone who didn't know anyone from the arts community would think we were a bunch of bizarre ego maniacal crazy people, and that is just so not true...at all...perhaps
Anyone who didn't know anyone from the arts community would think we were a bunch of bizarre ego maniacal crazy people, and that is just so not true...at all...perhaps
crgwllmsMon, 2 Jan 2006, 12:36 am
Re: abacus fingerings
John Counsel wrote:
> 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 2 + 2 = 22
Okay, I get it.
a One and a One, and a One and a One
is a Two and a Two
is a Twenty Two
but does this really act as an analogy to what I think you're trying to say?
There was no sleight of hand, forgery, fraud, or trying to fool us....it was simply an observation (which you seem to be overreacting to a tad?)
> And, please... show a little spine. Contact me directly and
> I'll be happy to forward your contact details to any of the
> writers concerned.
Is this really a useful idea? Okay, forward MY contact details (as listed above, crgwllms@bigpond.com) to ALL of the writers concerned. Then what? Are they all going to write back to me, proving their separate and individual existence? Will it prove I have a spine?
If they do, I'll return here to help you refute any rumours about their identical IP addresses...
>
> Opinion is no substitute for facts. You're welcome to your
> opinion, but I suggest that, in the absence of any basis for
> judgement beyond a suspicious mind and a lamentable lack of
> factual detail, you think twice before making them public.
> Others may not be as patient or tolerant.
>
John, you're neither sounding patient nor tolerant.
The fingerpointer's point made was cheeky but not unfounded. If untrue, it's not gonna hurt ya. And if true...well, it's not gonna hurt ya either. Sounds like the show is doing well regardless...if we're to believe anything we read on the internet. (And I don't recommend you believe most of what you read on the internet, about anything).
That was the writer's only point. Be wary of the sources where so-called 'information' comes from. I agree. What has being anonymous got to do with it? It's no more or less spineless than calling yourself 'John Counsel', who to us in WA might as well be a made-up name. No slur or offense intended, but you must get my point.
Calling themselves "---.vic.bigpond.net.au" was more about humorously emphasising their point than about concealing any identity. Who cares about their identity?? I just thought it was funny. Well done.
All the best with your show. Try not to get too stressed.
Cheers,
Craig
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> 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 2 + 2 = 22
Okay, I get it.
a One and a One, and a One and a One
is a Two and a Two
is a Twenty Two
but does this really act as an analogy to what I think you're trying to say?
There was no sleight of hand, forgery, fraud, or trying to fool us....it was simply an observation (which you seem to be overreacting to a tad?)
> And, please... show a little spine. Contact me directly and
> I'll be happy to forward your contact details to any of the
> writers concerned.
Is this really a useful idea? Okay, forward MY contact details (as listed above, crgwllms@bigpond.com) to ALL of the writers concerned. Then what? Are they all going to write back to me, proving their separate and individual existence? Will it prove I have a spine?
If they do, I'll return here to help you refute any rumours about their identical IP addresses...
>
> Opinion is no substitute for facts. You're welcome to your
> opinion, but I suggest that, in the absence of any basis for
> judgement beyond a suspicious mind and a lamentable lack of
> factual detail, you think twice before making them public.
> Others may not be as patient or tolerant.
>
John, you're neither sounding patient nor tolerant.
The fingerpointer's point made was cheeky but not unfounded. If untrue, it's not gonna hurt ya. And if true...well, it's not gonna hurt ya either. Sounds like the show is doing well regardless...if we're to believe anything we read on the internet. (And I don't recommend you believe most of what you read on the internet, about anything).
That was the writer's only point. Be wary of the sources where so-called 'information' comes from. I agree. What has being anonymous got to do with it? It's no more or less spineless than calling yourself 'John Counsel', who to us in WA might as well be a made-up name. No slur or offense intended, but you must get my point.
Calling themselves "---.vic.bigpond.net.au" was more about humorously emphasising their point than about concealing any identity. Who cares about their identity?? I just thought it was funny. Well done.
All the best with your show. Try not to get too stressed.
Cheers,
Craig
[%sig%]
John CounselMon, 2 Jan 2006, 08:51 am
Re: The HOBYAHS - review
Yeah, it's amazing the difference a weekend of catching up on much-needed sleep can do! *lol*
I admit to getting a little touchy when I feel innocent people are being maligned, but I guess tiredness doesn't help achieve a sense of balance, humour or proportion. I apologise for any offense or confusion. I was referred to the anonymous post by a couple of people and, despite toning down my initial response, I didn't give it my customary 24-hour test. Hopefully the explanations helped to balance any unnecessary heat with a little light.
I had no wish to see this thread digress like it has, so this will be my last post on this topic.
Grant M -- nice to see someone doing a little digging via google. While I may be unknown to the good people of W.A., I'm not unknown elsewhere, as you've seen.
I have no connection to H. F. that I'm aware of, although I have my suspicions as to his identity. But, like others, I have no definitive proof, and I'm not interested enough to lose any sleep on that score. Any positive review is welcome, naturally, but I personally prefer warts and all. I find it more constructive and credible.
BTW, at least five computers share this same IP address, and most users have access to this computer, which is permanently connected.
Happy New Year to all!
John
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I admit to getting a little touchy when I feel innocent people are being maligned, but I guess tiredness doesn't help achieve a sense of balance, humour or proportion. I apologise for any offense or confusion. I was referred to the anonymous post by a couple of people and, despite toning down my initial response, I didn't give it my customary 24-hour test. Hopefully the explanations helped to balance any unnecessary heat with a little light.
I had no wish to see this thread digress like it has, so this will be my last post on this topic.
Grant M -- nice to see someone doing a little digging via google. While I may be unknown to the good people of W.A., I'm not unknown elsewhere, as you've seen.
I have no connection to H. F. that I'm aware of, although I have my suspicions as to his identity. But, like others, I have no definitive proof, and I'm not interested enough to lose any sleep on that score. Any positive review is welcome, naturally, but I personally prefer warts and all. I find it more constructive and credible.
BTW, at least five computers share this same IP address, and most users have access to this computer, which is permanently connected.
Happy New Year to all!
John
[%sig%]
Grant MalcolmWed, 4 Jan 2006, 01:50 am
Re: reviewing the situation
John Counsel wrote:
> I have no connection to H. F. that I'm aware of, although I
> have my suspicions as to his identity.
Just thought you might have run across him/her, as Hugh Findoubt's aka Cüchulainn's website
http://www.reviewsbycuchulainn.com/ 64.239.95.71
is hosted at the same ip address, probably even the same machine, as some of your own sites
http://www.johncounsel.com/ 64.239.95.71
http://www.johncounsel.biz/ 64.239.95.71
http://www.hobyahs.com/ 64.239.95.71
http://www.childrenstheatrevictoria.com/ 64.239.95.71
http://www.profitclinic.com/ 64.239.95.71
...
the name servers for his/her and your sites are naturally enough all the same ones at Arcadia Technology and coincidentally all the domains seem to have been registered through GoDaddy.com
:-)
Hey! You might even want to check with whoever developed your own sites as the HTML form code on the Hobyah's review page
http://www.hobyahs.com/2005/reviews/post.html
is practically identical to that on Cüchulainn's review request page
http://www.reviewsbycuchulainn.com/esend/request.php
or did you just modify a copy of Cüchulainn's code?
Both pages even use the same version of Matt's famous FormMail script:
http://www.reviewsbycuchulainn.com/cgi-bin/FormMail.cgi
http://www.hobyahs.com/cgi-bin/FormMail.cgi
Which is, at least potentially, open to cross site scripting hacks.
But I wouldn't lose any sleep over it either.
:-)
Cheers
Grant
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> I have no connection to H. F. that I'm aware of, although I
> have my suspicions as to his identity.
Just thought you might have run across him/her, as Hugh Findoubt's aka Cüchulainn's website
http://www.reviewsbycuchulainn.com/ 64.239.95.71
is hosted at the same ip address, probably even the same machine, as some of your own sites
http://www.johncounsel.com/ 64.239.95.71
http://www.johncounsel.biz/ 64.239.95.71
http://www.hobyahs.com/ 64.239.95.71
http://www.childrenstheatrevictoria.com/ 64.239.95.71
http://www.profitclinic.com/ 64.239.95.71
...
the name servers for his/her and your sites are naturally enough all the same ones at Arcadia Technology and coincidentally all the domains seem to have been registered through GoDaddy.com
:-)
Hey! You might even want to check with whoever developed your own sites as the HTML form code on the Hobyah's review page
http://www.hobyahs.com/2005/reviews/post.html
is practically identical to that on Cüchulainn's review request page
http://www.reviewsbycuchulainn.com/esend/request.php
or did you just modify a copy of Cüchulainn's code?
Both pages even use the same version of Matt's famous FormMail script:
http://www.reviewsbycuchulainn.com/cgi-bin/FormMail.cgi
http://www.hobyahs.com/cgi-bin/FormMail.cgi
Which is, at least potentially, open to cross site scripting hacks.
But I wouldn't lose any sleep over it either.
:-)
Cheers
Grant
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John CounselWed, 4 Jan 2006, 07:21 am
Re: The HOBYAHS - review
The explanation's probably simple enough, although there's no way I know of to be sure. (I'm not that tech savvy.)
Arcadia Technology is a Sydney-based web host with several hundred clients. They provided us with the formmail and form code to use on our own sites and they installed the scripts for us. They also register domain names for us. They do the same for their other clients as part of their service, so it's a reasonable guess that they've done the same for someone else's mail forms.
We've been very happy with them and have referred a lot of new business their way over the past three or four years, but discreet enquiries to them about client identities has resulted, quite properly, in nothing more than polite referrals to the privacy act.
Thanks for the info. It helps to confirm some of my suspicions, but I have learned to be wary of jumping to conclusions on the basis of apparent coincidence alone.
John
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Arcadia Technology is a Sydney-based web host with several hundred clients. They provided us with the formmail and form code to use on our own sites and they installed the scripts for us. They also register domain names for us. They do the same for their other clients as part of their service, so it's a reasonable guess that they've done the same for someone else's mail forms.
We've been very happy with them and have referred a lot of new business their way over the past three or four years, but discreet enquiries to them about client identities has resulted, quite properly, in nothing more than polite referrals to the privacy act.
Thanks for the info. It helps to confirm some of my suspicions, but I have learned to be wary of jumping to conclusions on the basis of apparent coincidence alone.
John
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