Missed Messages [repost]
Fri, 10 Mar 2000, 03:14 pmGrant Malcolm7 posts in thread
Missed Messages [repost]
Fri, 10 Mar 2000, 03:14 pmMy apologies to all those for whom this is a repost. If you are subscribed to the mailing list you have probably read this already.
Following is Max Armstrong's response to earlier messages sent directly to the mailing list this morning.
Max, i'm not sure from your post who you feel has been making use of "dismissive language".
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Subject: Belated Birthday Wish/ensuing topics
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:48:03 +0800
From: "Max Armstrong"
Dear all,
I bang my head constantly for opportunities lost by people presenting the
vision that they are master of thier own domain by the use of dismissive
language to the lesser mortals.
Perhaps a lot more mileage would have been gained by a simple "Yes please,
inclusion on your site would be much appreciated. Our web address is
http://blah blah.etc.au "
-----Original Message-----
From: Grant Malcolm
To: itawa@egroups.com
Date: Friday, 10 March 2000 9:37
Subject: Re: Belated Birthday Wish
Hi Stephen
>> Dear Grant, Jarrod and anyone else interested, I note with interest your
>>comments regarding your own website but am a little perplexed that you are
>>very pleased at upping the hits to your website to 60 a day and wish
others
>>would publicise it, because when ozdiary tried to do this, our offers have
>>been largely ignored.
I should have thought our being pleased with more hits was a fairly normal reaction.
>>Ozdiary, which is a nationwide directory of the
>>performing arts, gets over 3,000 hits a week (our counter indicates around
>>300 of these come from Perth).
Congratulations :)
I note that Ozdiary also includes information on art galleries, exhibitions, cinema, tv, news, weather, sport, finance, leisure, travel and tourism.
>>We have written, faxed and posted on your
>>egroup repeated offers to include your members' information, including
your
>>website address, on our site for free but so far we have had few takers.
I think the ITA committee would express similar frustration at the slow response from some member companies to their own requests for information.
>>All entries would be linked to your site so this couldn't help but
increase
>>awareness of your site and help put more bums on seats. We don't want to
>>drop WA from our listings as we have many regular Perth people who come to
>>the site for other reasons (tourism, tv guide, cinema guide etc) and end
up
>>visiting the what's on pages looking for theatre, arts, classical music
>>info. From the feedback we receive from them, they appreciate and use our
>>site but we have had comments that our theatre guide is very limited and
>>wonder why it is not more comprehensive. We'd love for it to be so, but if
>>we are not told what's on, we can't tell anyone else.
All the information you seek is freely available on the ITA website. You will notice that copyright notices are not appended to each page. Please feel free to help yourself to whatever information you require.
The ITA website is a communication medium for a well established, flourishing organisation with a highly active membership. The site is built around a shared vision of an interactive arts community. It has always been more than a sales brochure, product catalogue or calendar of events.
Cheers
Grant
PS. Unfortunately this message was posted to the mailing list and so won't appear on the website - unless someone wanted to continue the discussion there?
Following is Max Armstrong's response to earlier messages sent directly to the mailing list this morning.
Max, i'm not sure from your post who you feel has been making use of "dismissive language".
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Subject: Belated Birthday Wish/ensuing topics
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:48:03 +0800
From: "Max Armstrong"
Dear all,
I bang my head constantly for opportunities lost by people presenting the
vision that they are master of thier own domain by the use of dismissive
language to the lesser mortals.
Perhaps a lot more mileage would have been gained by a simple "Yes please,
inclusion on your site would be much appreciated. Our web address is
http://blah blah.etc.au "
-----Original Message-----
From: Grant Malcolm
To: itawa@egroups.com
Date: Friday, 10 March 2000 9:37
Subject: Re: Belated Birthday Wish
Hi Stephen
>> Dear Grant, Jarrod and anyone else interested, I note with interest your
>>comments regarding your own website but am a little perplexed that you are
>>very pleased at upping the hits to your website to 60 a day and wish
others
>>would publicise it, because when ozdiary tried to do this, our offers have
>>been largely ignored.
I should have thought our being pleased with more hits was a fairly normal reaction.
>>Ozdiary, which is a nationwide directory of the
>>performing arts, gets over 3,000 hits a week (our counter indicates around
>>300 of these come from Perth).
Congratulations :)
I note that Ozdiary also includes information on art galleries, exhibitions, cinema, tv, news, weather, sport, finance, leisure, travel and tourism.
>>We have written, faxed and posted on your
>>egroup repeated offers to include your members' information, including
your
>>website address, on our site for free but so far we have had few takers.
I think the ITA committee would express similar frustration at the slow response from some member companies to their own requests for information.
>>All entries would be linked to your site so this couldn't help but
increase
>>awareness of your site and help put more bums on seats. We don't want to
>>drop WA from our listings as we have many regular Perth people who come to
>>the site for other reasons (tourism, tv guide, cinema guide etc) and end
up
>>visiting the what's on pages looking for theatre, arts, classical music
>>info. From the feedback we receive from them, they appreciate and use our
>>site but we have had comments that our theatre guide is very limited and
>>wonder why it is not more comprehensive. We'd love for it to be so, but if
>>we are not told what's on, we can't tell anyone else.
All the information you seek is freely available on the ITA website. You will notice that copyright notices are not appended to each page. Please feel free to help yourself to whatever information you require.
The ITA website is a communication medium for a well established, flourishing organisation with a highly active membership. The site is built around a shared vision of an interactive arts community. It has always been more than a sales brochure, product catalogue or calendar of events.
Cheers
Grant
PS. Unfortunately this message was posted to the mailing list and so won't appear on the website - unless someone wanted to continue the discussion there?
Grant MalcolmFri, 10 Mar 2000, 03:14 pm
My apologies to all those for whom this is a repost. If you are subscribed to the mailing list you have probably read this already.
Following is Max Armstrong's response to earlier messages sent directly to the mailing list this morning.
Max, i'm not sure from your post who you feel has been making use of "dismissive language".
---------------------------
Subject: Belated Birthday Wish/ensuing topics
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:48:03 +0800
From: "Max Armstrong"
Dear all,
I bang my head constantly for opportunities lost by people presenting the
vision that they are master of thier own domain by the use of dismissive
language to the lesser mortals.
Perhaps a lot more mileage would have been gained by a simple "Yes please,
inclusion on your site would be much appreciated. Our web address is
http://blah blah.etc.au "
-----Original Message-----
From: Grant Malcolm
To: itawa@egroups.com
Date: Friday, 10 March 2000 9:37
Subject: Re: Belated Birthday Wish
Hi Stephen
>> Dear Grant, Jarrod and anyone else interested, I note with interest your
>>comments regarding your own website but am a little perplexed that you are
>>very pleased at upping the hits to your website to 60 a day and wish
others
>>would publicise it, because when ozdiary tried to do this, our offers have
>>been largely ignored.
I should have thought our being pleased with more hits was a fairly normal reaction.
>>Ozdiary, which is a nationwide directory of the
>>performing arts, gets over 3,000 hits a week (our counter indicates around
>>300 of these come from Perth).
Congratulations :)
I note that Ozdiary also includes information on art galleries, exhibitions, cinema, tv, news, weather, sport, finance, leisure, travel and tourism.
>>We have written, faxed and posted on your
>>egroup repeated offers to include your members' information, including
your
>>website address, on our site for free but so far we have had few takers.
I think the ITA committee would express similar frustration at the slow response from some member companies to their own requests for information.
>>All entries would be linked to your site so this couldn't help but
increase
>>awareness of your site and help put more bums on seats. We don't want to
>>drop WA from our listings as we have many regular Perth people who come to
>>the site for other reasons (tourism, tv guide, cinema guide etc) and end
up
>>visiting the what's on pages looking for theatre, arts, classical music
>>info. From the feedback we receive from them, they appreciate and use our
>>site but we have had comments that our theatre guide is very limited and
>>wonder why it is not more comprehensive. We'd love for it to be so, but if
>>we are not told what's on, we can't tell anyone else.
All the information you seek is freely available on the ITA website. You will notice that copyright notices are not appended to each page. Please feel free to help yourself to whatever information you require.
The ITA website is a communication medium for a well established, flourishing organisation with a highly active membership. The site is built around a shared vision of an interactive arts community. It has always been more than a sales brochure, product catalogue or calendar of events.
Cheers
Grant
PS. Unfortunately this message was posted to the mailing list and so won't appear on the website - unless someone wanted to continue the discussion there?
Following is Max Armstrong's response to earlier messages sent directly to the mailing list this morning.
Max, i'm not sure from your post who you feel has been making use of "dismissive language".
---------------------------
Subject: Belated Birthday Wish/ensuing topics
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:48:03 +0800
From: "Max Armstrong"
Dear all,
I bang my head constantly for opportunities lost by people presenting the
vision that they are master of thier own domain by the use of dismissive
language to the lesser mortals.
Perhaps a lot more mileage would have been gained by a simple "Yes please,
inclusion on your site would be much appreciated. Our web address is
http://blah blah.etc.au "
-----Original Message-----
From: Grant Malcolm
To: itawa@egroups.com
Date: Friday, 10 March 2000 9:37
Subject: Re: Belated Birthday Wish
Hi Stephen
>> Dear Grant, Jarrod and anyone else interested, I note with interest your
>>comments regarding your own website but am a little perplexed that you are
>>very pleased at upping the hits to your website to 60 a day and wish
others
>>would publicise it, because when ozdiary tried to do this, our offers have
>>been largely ignored.
I should have thought our being pleased with more hits was a fairly normal reaction.
>>Ozdiary, which is a nationwide directory of the
>>performing arts, gets over 3,000 hits a week (our counter indicates around
>>300 of these come from Perth).
Congratulations :)
I note that Ozdiary also includes information on art galleries, exhibitions, cinema, tv, news, weather, sport, finance, leisure, travel and tourism.
>>We have written, faxed and posted on your
>>egroup repeated offers to include your members' information, including
your
>>website address, on our site for free but so far we have had few takers.
I think the ITA committee would express similar frustration at the slow response from some member companies to their own requests for information.
>>All entries would be linked to your site so this couldn't help but
increase
>>awareness of your site and help put more bums on seats. We don't want to
>>drop WA from our listings as we have many regular Perth people who come to
>>the site for other reasons (tourism, tv guide, cinema guide etc) and end
up
>>visiting the what's on pages looking for theatre, arts, classical music
>>info. From the feedback we receive from them, they appreciate and use our
>>site but we have had comments that our theatre guide is very limited and
>>wonder why it is not more comprehensive. We'd love for it to be so, but if
>>we are not told what's on, we can't tell anyone else.
All the information you seek is freely available on the ITA website. You will notice that copyright notices are not appended to each page. Please feel free to help yourself to whatever information you require.
The ITA website is a communication medium for a well established, flourishing organisation with a highly active membership. The site is built around a shared vision of an interactive arts community. It has always been more than a sales brochure, product catalogue or calendar of events.
Cheers
Grant
PS. Unfortunately this message was posted to the mailing list and so won't appear on the website - unless someone wanted to continue the discussion there?
MaxFri, 10 Mar 2000, 04:38 pm
RE: Missed Messages [repost]
Hi all :)
To identify whom I perceived as using the dismissive language didn't seem inportant actually. I was more expressing my frustration at the lack of common sense in doing something that would have a beneficial result.
I figure I'll email ozdiary on behalf of the website and say "Yes thankyou, inclusion on your site would be appreciated". The paying public will probably appreciate it anyway.
To identify whom I perceived as using the dismissive language didn't seem inportant actually. I was more expressing my frustration at the lack of common sense in doing something that would have a beneficial result.
I figure I'll email ozdiary on behalf of the website and say "Yes thankyou, inclusion on your site would be appreciated". The paying public will probably appreciate it anyway.
Grant MalcolmFri, 10 Mar 2000, 05:59 pm
RE: Missed Messages [repost]
Hi Max
Max wrote:
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> Hi all :)
> To identify whom I perceived as using the dismissive language didn't
> seem inportant actually. I was more expressing my frustration at the
> lack of common sense in doing something that would have a
> beneficial result.
Ditto that, but i suspect for very different reasons.
Stephen already has the address for the ITA site. In fact, he's been on the mailing list for nearly three months and the ITA site has been listed on Ozdiary for much of that time. He would also be aware that the information he is seeking from individual clubs is freely available here. I indicated as much in my reply to his first request for information back in January this year.
Common sense?
I should think we were providing information on a platter to Ozdiary. Rather than chasing up 40 odd community theatre companies here in WA for season details, ploughing through mountains of mail, Ozdiary can help themselves to the collated information here whenever they like.
> I figure I'll email ozdiary on behalf of the website and say "Yes
> thankyou, inclusion on your site would be appreciated". The paying
> public will probably appreciate it anyway.
I'm sure we'd all appreciate it. Perhaps you might ask why it hasn't happened?
Cheers
Grant
Max wrote:
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> Hi all :)
> To identify whom I perceived as using the dismissive language didn't
> seem inportant actually. I was more expressing my frustration at the
> lack of common sense in doing something that would have a
> beneficial result.
Ditto that, but i suspect for very different reasons.
Stephen already has the address for the ITA site. In fact, he's been on the mailing list for nearly three months and the ITA site has been listed on Ozdiary for much of that time. He would also be aware that the information he is seeking from individual clubs is freely available here. I indicated as much in my reply to his first request for information back in January this year.
Common sense?
I should think we were providing information on a platter to Ozdiary. Rather than chasing up 40 odd community theatre companies here in WA for season details, ploughing through mountains of mail, Ozdiary can help themselves to the collated information here whenever they like.
> I figure I'll email ozdiary on behalf of the website and say "Yes
> thankyou, inclusion on your site would be appreciated". The paying
> public will probably appreciate it anyway.
I'm sure we'd all appreciate it. Perhaps you might ask why it hasn't happened?
Cheers
Grant
SidselSat, 11 Mar 2000, 06:04 pm
RE: Missed Messages [repost]
Hi Grant, We have changed server and are now permanently on Telstra Big Pond. How do I get on the mailing list with my new E-mail address? Sidsel
Grant MalcolmSun, 12 Mar 2000, 02:15 am
RE: mailing list directions
Hi Sidsel
You may add yourself to the mailing list by filling in your email address on the front page of the website in the Message boards section and clicking on the Subscribe to Message Boards button.
You old address will automatically be removed when it starts to bounce mail.
Great to have you back on board!
Cheers
Grant
You may add yourself to the mailing list by filling in your email address on the front page of the website in the Message boards section and clicking on the Subscribe to Message Boards button.
You old address will automatically be removed when it starts to bounce mail.
Great to have you back on board!
Cheers
Grant
Walter PlingeThu, 16 Mar 2000, 06:16 pm
RE: mailing list directions
Greetings ... like Sidsel I too would like to be more in touch through the mailing list but can't seem to find the Message Boards section Grant refers to ?
Can someone give me more detailed directions ?
Cheers
David
Can someone give me more detailed directions ?
Cheers
David
Grant MalcolmThu, 16 Mar 2000, 09:13 pm
RE: mailing list directions
Hi David
David Court wrote:
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> Greetings ... like Sidsel I too would like to be more in touch through the
> mailing list but can't seem to find the Message Boards section Grant refers to?
> Can someone give me more detailed directions ?
Happy to oblige.
If you check the website's homepage - you can get there from anywhere in the site by clicking on the ITA logo in the upper left corner of each screen - scroll halfway down that first page for a heading Message Boards.
Somewhere not far below this, and just above the What's on this week section, is a space for you to fill in your email address and then click on the button labelled Subscribe to Message Boards.
Should this fail, you can resort to sending a blank email to the following address:
itawa-subscribe@eGroups.com
Cheers
Grant
David Court wrote:
-------------------------------
> Greetings ... like Sidsel I too would like to be more in touch through the
> mailing list but can't seem to find the Message Boards section Grant refers to?
> Can someone give me more detailed directions ?
Happy to oblige.
If you check the website's homepage
Somewhere not far below this, and just above the What's on this week section, is a space for you to fill in your email address and then click on the button labelled Subscribe to Message Boards.
Should this fail, you can resort to sending a blank email to the following address:
itawa-subscribe@eGroups.com
Cheers
Grant