Don't Use Australian Talent Management !!!

This post removed 21 August 2008 at the request of Teresa Redlin, Australian Talent Management for reason: allegedly defamatory content

Did you see this other thread about ATM? http://www.theatre.asn.au/billboard_bulletins/is_the_australian_talent_management_agency_good (Yes, you did, I checked your profile for your previous page visits) Please let's not start yet another thread about the same company and same dodgy agency issues. There's plenty of other insightful, informative posts about agencies and what you should know. Check the FAQ for a good post about what an agency should do and what you should know when joining one. Sticky Apple Legs www.freewebs.com/stickyapplelegs Puppets in Melbourne www.thepromptcopy.com/pip My puppets www.collectzing.com/collection/137/

I went in for a shoot with ATM and while I was waiting read about 200 serveys of clients all written out in different hand writing all very happy with there service, I had my photos taken and digitaly edited and uploaded for me. There photographer was very professional and my images were fantastic. I asked nicly if I could get a copy of them on CD in high rez and they said it was ok. Before I went in I went to Blackbox and paid $165 for photos and went into a dark dingy studio and got 2 headshots done there was people smoking in the office and a sleezy photographer took my pictures and they were a joke. I have been in this industry for 10 years and I found ATM to be offering the best service so far, they have offered me 4 commercials so far and I have been casted into a feature film starting in January. Dont listen to people posting rubbish about any company that cannot even provide a name as well.

"Before I went in I went to Blackbox and paid $165 for photos and went into a dark dingy studio and got 2 headshots done there was people smoking in the office and a sleezy photographer took my pictures and they were a joke. I have been in this industry for 10 years and I found ATM to be offering the best service so far" That doesn't make any sense. A sleazy photographer took your photos and they were a joke, and yet your still happy with the service? "Dont listen to people posting rubbish about any company that cannot even provide a name as well." Please, please read the other threads. You will see that this topic has been covered on both sides of the aisle. Sticky Apple Legs www.freewebs.com/stickyapplelegs Puppets in Melbourne www.thepromptcopy.com/pip My puppets www.collectzing.com/collection/137/

So what work have you managed to get from ATM so far?

This comment removed 21 August 2008 at the request of Teresa Redlin, Australian Talent Management for reason: allegedly defamatory content

This comment removed 21 August 2008 at the request of Teresa Redlin, Australian Talent Management for reason: allegedly defamatory content

This comment removed 21 August 2008 at the request of Teresa Redlin, Australian Talent Management for reason: allegedly defamatory content

A portfolio normally costs $330 upwards, the photographers never provide the outfits, you should have shopped around like I did and compare prices before deciding what firm to use like I did. Honestly all I read on this site with respect to this firm is total rubbish from out of work actors with no agent and I assume no future in the industry. Out of all the agencies I have researched ATM were the best. I have done many commercials including alcohol companies, boat manufactures, and I worked for them on City homicide with channel 7 and cannel 9's Underbelly. I have also been given a role in a feature film they are casting for next year. I was paid promptly and have received the sort of support and training I expect from a world-class agency. As for you stick apples you seem to do nothing but speculate about subjects all day on this website that you have no idea about, my advice is go get a job and do something productive. I am not going to read any more of the rubbish on this site, and I suggest that anyone with half a brain should do the same. Viv yes contact the media tell them you paid $160 for a studio shoot including digital editing and enhancement received the images and now want a refund. I would also ask ATM to provide a copy of all the surveys/testemonials I read when I was in there studio. I would also provide them with yyour full name so they know who you are and can address the issues you have. Have you even called them? or are you just slandering them online to help the likes of Oz Casting blackbox etc.. so they can try to compete with this larger international operation that is kicking there arses.

This comment removed 21 August 2008 at the request of Teresa Redlin, Australian Talent Management for reason: allegedly defamatory content

I work for Allied Talent Management (USA) a sister company of Australian Talent Management other companies of the ATM group is ITM Indian Talent Management we are opening offices in Paris, Spain, and Milan. I find this sort of trash talk ridiculous. I was asked to give a report to our world wide GM on this website's threads pertaining to the ATM group and advise a course of action to deal with this ridiculous slander. My report will go as follows- this website seems to be allowing small local somewhat backward agencies to be posting slanderous comments on this website about the ATM group. "Don’t use Australian Talent Management" lol is that the best you can do? Write this ambiguous slanderous remark so you can point prospective clients (talent) to a slanderous and bias thread and say "See you should join us" lol. As humorous as this is if you have a legitimate complaint you should call our office on 1300660595 we will make sure your issues are addressed. Naomi- "Furthermore: you ask for other people to provide a name - is yours really Carol Jackson? Or are you Thomas in disguise?... Much can be speculated on either side." Honestly Naomi all you do is speculate. Don’t worry about people being influenced by silly things like facts:)lol speculate all you want. The tide is coming in and we have worldwide connections and a huge budget. Stick to the facts. My issue with you is credibility or lack of it on your part. Simon Russo Legal Team Manager New York Office One West Street Suit 3402 NY, NY 10004

"Don’t worry about people being influenced by silly things like facts:)lol speculate all you want" I'll be the first one to post information provided by a third-party - whether it's good or bad - about ATM. I have not found any yet, only posts from happy clients, unhappy clients, and the company itself. I'd love to have some info from a non-interested party. And I'd still like to get an answer - are you an agency, or are you a subscription service? Or do you not make a definition? (By the way, does Allied Talent Management have a website... I couldn't find you or the company anywhere... but the address is correct, because that's what's listed on the Aus. site) I did not start this thread, nor the other one. I have no doubt that perhaps some of the posts were from your competition - I may be naive, but I prefer to believe that these people are telling the truth. I, and others, responded with that belief, and provided useful information on actors' rights when dealing with agencies. If you don't want actors to know about MEAA, Fair Trade, or other such organisations... "This website seems to be allowing small local somewhat backward agencies to be posting slanderous comments on this website about the ATM group. " Grant, the site admin, has a policy of free speech. He can and has removed posts which he has been informed of their slanderous properties; otherwise, they stay. Feel free to contact him. "My issue with you is credibility or lack of it on your part." Feel free to state what exactly is bothering you about my credibility. I have no ties to any agency. I am not an actress. I work for no arts institution at this time, except on my own productions. I find it incredible that you think it is slanderous to advise people to a) read the information provided on both sides of the aisle, b) read and be informed about the rights of an actor, and the expectations of an agency, and c) follow up if there are any concerns (which is a customer's right). Here are a couple of my posts from the other thread: "Whoa, you're getting ahead of yourself there... how about we find some actual comments from people who have used the service, or have heard about it. Let's not tar every agency with the same brush - let's get some proof about its legitimacy/suspiciousness first." "I'm not saying that ATM is or isn't legit. I'm just saying that you should never take something for granted, and you should always do your research before signing up with an agency. " Does anyone actually read what I write, or do they prefer to put words in my mouth? Or were those posts also slanderous? You will see that I have neither defended ATM, nor outright supported the complainants. "The tide is coming in and we have worldwide connections and a huge budget." If that is a threat, by all means... I'm sticking by what I wrote, and I'm not scared of your 'connections' or your budget. :) In case you haven't noticed, I have been encouraging people to stop posting to this thread. There is no longer any use in this debate, no new information has been provided, and the topic has been covered to death. I am going to ask Grant to lock this thread. (I did have a couple of other points to my argument, but unfortunately, had to write the post over again due to the page timing out. However, the salient details are here. PS. the title of the post refers to an Italian playwright, who did not believe in fact, only truth as it is perceived by each person) Sticky Apple Legs www.freewebs.com/stickyapplelegs Puppets in Melbourne www.thepromptcopy.com/pip My puppets www.collectzing.com/collection/137/

I'm only going to say one thing - everyone has a right to express their opinion and to begin a debate. Don't be dissuaded to ask for help or advice just because the topic has been discussed before. All personal experiences are relevant, people will make their own judgments as to their validity. Message boards are not the place to get caught up in whether anecdotes are slanderous or defamatory, that's the point of having an online forum. Cassie Dart Actor-Writer-Director www.fixedpoint.com.au

This forum is all too often used at an avenue for people to take cheap shots at firms like ATM. I think that the people that run this website need to realize that they can be held accountable for what they allow people to post on this website similar to news.com.au forums. If I was you Grant I would tread carefully with respect to what you deem to be slanderous and what the ACCC and various other governing bodies and legal representatives would deem to be allowing slanderous material to be posted on your website. If you do not even have any editing/screening process than I am sure that the ATM legal team is going to shut you down. You better hide your assets sir.

I thought that these sorts of forums need to be edited by the administrators of the website/companies hosting the site. Free speech is great but who is editing the postings on this site? I have read people asking for other people to "Chip in to get outlaw motorcycle gangs to take a hit out on competitiors" In fact I have taken the liberty of copying all these posts and emailing them to Media watch and other bodies as I think this website is not being responsable and needs to be held accountable for there lack of editing/screening. Freedom of speech? No this is wrong, the administrators of this site are responsable.

Pity Media Watch won't be back until February next year, they haven't even found a new executive producer or host yet.

Of for f- sake. Read my above post. Grant does and has removed posts, BUT ONLY WHEN ASKED. I'm sure somewhere on this site there is a small blurb about the admin not being liable for slander... furthermore, if you believe the posts are slanderous, you can report them to the admin or vote them down. And I agree with Labrug - there is only so much one person can do. Anyone from ATM is most welcome to disagree; they can contact Grant personally if they feel they need to. As for 'who is editing this site'... read my above para. You can participate - of course, hardly anyone does. Media Watch has better things to do. This is an online forum, anyone can contribute, anyone can participate, anyone can moderate, and anyone is allowed to say what they like - the admin of this site is NOT responsible for what someone else writes. For the last time, can we please close this thread? Sticky Apple Legs www.thepromptcopy.com/sal Puppets in Melbourne www.puppetsinmelbourne.com.au My puppets www.collectzing.com/collection/137/

I guess this website administrators think they are immune from being held accountable for what they post on this site till then. Well I know for a fact that Grant is a drug dealer and a pedophile. Lets see how long this stays online shall we

Stuart Little, I think you'll find that on practically EVERY forum site and other community-based/run website, there will be a Terms and Conditions page, that includes information about how the site administration is NOT responsible or liable for posts written by other people. It is standard legalise; and perhaps next time you join a site, you should read the T&C carefully. No, they don't think themselves immune: they just believe that people should be personally held liable for what they contribute. Just like I held you personally responsible for making comments about Grant, and chose to participate in the moderation, by voting your comment down. ... *Hunts for a way to close the thread* Sticky Apple Legs www.thepromptcopy.com/sal Puppets in Melbourne www.puppetsinmelbourne.com.au My puppets www.collectzing.com/collection/137/

anyway i recently joined that company and i dont care bout debating it, i'll find out for myself. i just wanna know how do i access my profile on their website

Why don't you ask them? I'm sure they have a web admin or contact person who you can get to tell you.... Try calling or emailing them. On the other hand, if you meant to say "How do I access my profile on this (this referring to Theatre Australia) website"... then we could help you. Sticky Apple Legs www.thepromptcopy.com/sal Puppets in Melbourne www.puppetsinmelbourne.com.au My puppets www.collectzing.com/collection/137/

This comment removed 21 August 2008 at the request of Teresa Redlin, Australian Talent Management for reason: allegedly defamatory content

If you are not happy with our photographic services we will do a reshoot at no additional cost to the client. We do not push our photographic services to our clients indeed we only offer the discount photographic services to clients that we feel show potential or specifically ask for them. There is no fee at all to join ATM. If you have issues, concerns or problems with any of ATM's services I suggest you contact our head office on 07 33405188

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